AC GT3 @ Monza - Sunday 7th February 2021

[RasmusP]

My first time uploading a video to TubeYou, so please forgive me if I've done it wrong. The fast lap starts around 2:25 if you want to skip the outlap.

Lap record (with outlap)

Good lap! Very clean.
A few things:
1. The Tyre sqeal you're hearing under braking at at corner entry should be there for a bit longer towards the exit. It seems like you could go faster and turn the wheel more.
In general it doesn't look very aggressive but I can't really judge it from the video.
Which brings me to point 2:

2. If you really wanna go faster, disable the G-force camera movements and the look to apex (real head motion or track ir?)
You're losing all visual clues about under - and oversteer due to it.
You don't know whether the camera is moving or the car is rotating.
These visual clues are very important!

If you would disable ffb and sound, you probably couldn't drive at all anymore with that.

I've been there myself, and I deactivated it all...
You need to see what the chassis does according to your inputs.
It's not as immersive and "fun" and you don't see as much into the corners but overall your brain will be fed with a lot more hints and clues if you disable all that!

 

[pattikins]

My first time uploading a video to TubeYou, so please forgive me if I've done it wrong. The fast lap starts around 2:25 if you want to skip the outlap.

Lap record (with outlap)

Considering your car had over 46 litres of fuel @ the start of the 'fast' lap- in the 650s that would be enough for 30 minutes - it was a really good lap. If you can find some video recordings of the previous RD Club races, and pause the video after a few laps you might be pleasantly surprised as to how quick you are.

 

[Kek700]

@RasmusP

I have my SVID disabled, cannot look at my package wattage,
cannot for the life of me remember where it is in my bios.
But no mater Rasmus, point taken, still cannot get my mind around Chris's CPU Temp's

 

[Marko77]

Hello Mark, actually I wrote that as I also run on console I had to give up on the ultrawide and stick to a 16:9 ratio (because I didn't want a stretched image nor black borders at the monitor's edges)
However @RasmusP perfectly explained the reason why in an ultrawide you see more than in a standard monitor while keeping the image proportions realistic (i.e. not stretched)

Hi Omar, I’m using a PC. Would I be able configure to see more and not stretched?

 

[RasmusP]

Hi Omar, I’m using a PC. Would I be able configure to see more and not stretched?

Yes!
I don't have a console so I'm not sure but I guess they are limited to the TV standards.
PCs and PC games are mostly completely free!

You can disable scaling in the graphics card driver and then create even custom resutions!

I'm playing some games via hdmi on my TV in the living room in 1640x1020 instead of 1920x1080 (I'm sitting a bit too close to the 55" TV so in some games it's just too big..).
I habe black areas all around then of unused pixels.

I have a 34" 3440x1440 monitor (a wider 27" monitor as you said yourself) and simracing is a lot better on it than with my old 27"!

Beware though: more pixels = more work for the graphics card.
I went from 1920x1080 to 3440x1440. That's 2.39x more pixels!
Luckily it's not a linear scale but my fps were almost halfed...
So depending on your graphics card, a 2560x1080 pixels 21:9 monitor might be better if you can live with slightly worse picture quality.

On my 27" with 49° fov, the left border of the view was the left A pillar and to the right I could basically see half of the windscreen.

Now on 34" 21:9 I can see the left rear mirror and see left corner apexes though the side window.
To the right I also see more, of course. I can see the cockpit rear mirror in most cars.

Assetto corsa, acc, project cars, rf2 can definitely use almost any resolution that you can imagine.
No issue with any monitor!

Here's a random picture from chat history with a friend when I got the monitor:
49° fov and I think standard seating position.
Acc though...

 

[Marko77]

Yes!
I don't have a console so I'm not sure but I guess they are limited to the TV standards.
PCs and PC games are mostly completely free!

You can disable scaling in the graphics card driver and then create even custom resutions!

I'm playing some games via hdmi on my TV in the living room in 1640x1020 instead of 1920x1080 (I'm sitting a bit too close to the 55" TV so in some games it's just too big..).

I have a 34" 3440x1440 monitor (a wider 27" monitor as you said yourself) and simracing is a lot better in it than on my old 27"!

On my 27" with 49° fov, the left border of the view was the left A pillar and to the right I could basically see half of the windscreen.

Now on 34" 21:9 I can see the left rear mirror and see left corner apexes though the side window.
To the right I also see more, of course. I can see the cockpit rear mirror in most cars.

Assetto corsa, acc, project cars, rf2 can definitely use almost any resolution that you can imagine.
No issue with any monitor!

Here's a random picture from chat history with a friend when I got the monitor:
49° fov and I think standard seating position.
Acc though...
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Thanks for the detailed explanation. Very useful. My wheel is making a clicking sound, so might have to deal with that first. Like you’re v2.5. While I’m at it, do you have a final gear ratio recommendation for a 650 at Monza. Something I’m struggling to figure out. In general is it better to use lower final gear (higher value) and stretch out the trans gears or just change final gear only?

 

[Goblin616]

Congratulation on such a good lap. I couldn't get better than a 1.51 high, tomorrow I plan to practice another couple of hours to make some tests with other cars and different setups. Yesterday I tried the Audi and got a 1.51.7xx after few laps, I was astoni6 at how "fast" I've been with a car I've been driving for just a few laps. It was so stable in corners! I then tried to sightly modify the setup and to my dismal, I noticed that the low downforce setting I assumed I set had not been loaded and I made that time with the default R8 setup (and that's why I didn't get past 5th gear on the main straight). Now I can't understand if that was a good time or not, given it had so much downforce..
By the way, were you (and all you guys) running softs or medium? I am trying just mediums to try them for this race

Thank you Omar. I have been practicing every day since Tuesday. I use softs, but Mediums may last the whole race at Monza, and that will let you have a quicker pitstop. You will have to try running a full hour on them. You will need higher tyre pressures for harder tyres though.

 

[Interslice]

I bought a 27 inch monitor thinking it would be a good all rounder and big enough for sim racing... Then I realised after i got it you would really want 3 of them to see properly with 1:1 FOV.

If you're thinking of going triple screen get 1080p monitors or else you looking at building a very expensive pc. Mistake 2 ... Mine is 2160p high res monitor. 3 of them is more pixels than a 4k monitor...

As a one stop shop for sim racing get the widest screen you can afford and also run. Bearing in mind you can get a 50 inch normal aspect ratio 1080p and run it fine with a gtx 1060. A 50 inch superwide 1080 will be a crazy resolution to have no stretching and could be equivilant to running between 2 and 3 1080 monitors. 5000 x 1080 or whatever they are.

If that makes sense...

 

[RasmusP]

Thanks for the detailed explanation. Very useful. My wheel is making a clicking sound, so might have to deal with that first. Like you’re v2.5. While I’m at it, do you have a final gear ratio recommendation for a 650 at Monza. Something I’m struggling to figure out. In general is it better to use lower final gear (higher value) and stretch out the trans gears or just change final gear only?

Can't say anything useful about the clicking sound. Can be anything...

650s is not my expertise. The others might be able to help you though.

In general it doesn't matter if you change the single gears or the final gear ratio.
You just need to play around with it.
I mostly change the single gears first and try to get them to work (no shifting at the crucial part of the corners) but sometimes they have uneven steps...

Then you need to change the final gear ratio and then the single gears again and hope that you'll end up with a better working combination...

Ps: I edited a few lines in my monitor post so maybe read through it again

 

[Marko77]

I bought a 27 inch monitor thinking it would be a good all rounder and big enough for sim racing... Then I realised after i got it you would really want 3 of them to see properly with 1:1 FOV.

If you're thinking of going triple screen get 1080p monitors or else you looking at building a very expensive pc. Mistake 2 ... Mine is 2160p high res monitor. 3 of them is more pixels than a 4k monitor...

As a one stop shop for sim racing get the widest screen you can afford and also run. Bearing in mind you can get a 50 inch normal aspect ratio 1080p and run it fine with a gtx 1060. A 50 inch superwide 1080 will be a crazy resolution to have no stretching and could be equivilant to running between 2 and 3 1080 monitors. 5000 x 1080 or whatever they are.

If that makes sense...

Thanks. It will make sense after I read it a few times as well as Rasmus’ post. When I started in the club my computer was awful. Couldn’t even complete a race. I now have a RTX 2070 super. That gpu might handle more now. I cap the FPS at 200, but achieving 133 to 144. Not bad.

 

[Goblin616]

who's going to practice online tonight?

 

[Interslice]

Thanks. It will make sense after I read it a few times as well as Rasmus’ post. When I started in the club my computer was awful. Couldn’t even complete a race. I now have a RTX 2070 super. That gpu might handle more now. I cap the FPS at 144.

Same here I had a decent pc but only a 21.5 inch monitor. The 2070 super is great card, plenty of monitor options with one of them if you want more pixels.

 

[demetri]

Thanks for the detailed explanation. Very useful. My wheel is making a clicking sound, so might have to deal with that first. Like you’re v2.5. While I’m at it, do you have a final gear ratio recommendation for a 650 at Monza. Something I’m struggling to figure out. In general is it better to use lower final gear (higher value) and stretch out the trans gears or just change final gear only?

My process to setting up gear ratios is first to find out what top speed I'm gonna reach and set the 6th gear accordingly (preferably with a bit extra km/h in case of getting into slipstream during the race). Then see if I can get away with the 2nd gear for the slowest corner or will have to use the 1st (that also depends on the particular car's engine powerband). Then I set other gears roughly evenly between them (here's where you have to play with individual gears vs the final gear as the steps can be pretty uneven). This usually gives a good initial setup which later can be tuned a bit if you find that a particular important corner falls sort of between the gears.

 

[adie_the_badie]

who's going to practice online tonight?

I plan to be. Not sure how much help I'll be but watching live on-boards is always a great learning experience.

 

[Chris Down]

Hello Chris - I just got AC a couple of weeks back. I am completely new to GT3 but I would like to race. I have read a few posts above about the very quick drivers (world record holders and what not) - is it worth it signing up for Sunday or should I spend a few weeks on the practice server getting an idea of what is needed? I don't want to be in people's way. and I don't mind waiting if it is advised !

PS Just in case I downloaded the track, team speak and the HUD

Welcome! We really welcome drivers of any skill, driving online is the best way to practice. Don't worry, there are drivers of all abilities here

I've added you as TBD. Please let me know the car you want before Sunday. Welcome!

 

[Chris Down]

I would like participate with AMG GT3

Thank you!

Welcome! Good to see you here. Just a reminder to read the rules in posts 1 and 2, especially around the Golden Rule and using your real name in game. Looking forward to racing with you

 

[Marko77]

My process to setting up gear ratios is first to find out what top speed I'm gonna reach and set the 6th gear accordingly (preferably with a bit extra km/h in case of getting into slipstream during the race). Then see if I can get away with the 2nd gear for the slowest corner or will have to use the 1st (that also depends on the particular car's engine powerband). Then I set other gears roughly evenly between them (here's where you have to play with individual gears vs the final gear as the steps can be pretty uneven). This usually gives a good initial setup which later can be tuned a bit if you find that a particular important corner falls sort of between the gears.

Thanks. I’ve been following that approach too. Considering the cars power band is important. Hope I was missing something that would be an earth shattering discovery. Oh well. I’ll Keep working on the driving part which is where I’m most likely loosing speed and time.

 

[adie_the_badie]

Could I switch to the Nissan, please. @Chris Down , Thank you.

A consistent two seconds faster

 

[maxilogan]

who's going to practice online tonight?

I think I'll practice on Saturday afternoon, which I assume is your morning..

 

[beginer]

I will go with the nissan, please. I finally got a chance to practice on the server last night. It was humbling and inspiring!