AC GT3 @ Monza - Sunday 7th February 2021

[demetri]

My "calculated correct" fov would be 21° iirc.
I'm about 90cm away with my eyes from the monitor and it's only 27" standard monitor height.
So definitely "way too high" fov but if I lower it or go even higher, my body/eyes resist by hurting or getting motion sick

Whatever works. It's all very individual. I could not race with fov much bigger than true 1:1 because of the warping effect that made it hard to judge distances. But moving to VR was even better because I could finally see all those apexes in their true form

 

[Kek700]

I used to race with one of those narrow slot Bell crash hats back in the day, my Rift S was pretty much equivalent to the real world FOV when compared to that Bell crash helmet.

 

[640er]

As this already became a very technically thread (racing and hardware ) I'm going to ask a VR related question. I use CM and have set the PixelsPerDisplay to 1.5 . The in-game OpenVR App always shows 1.0 PpD. Changing the value in the OpenVR App seems not to work because after the required restart, the value remains 1.0

So what value is correct? Am I running with 1.5 or 1.0?

 

[Marko77]

Yes!
I don't have a console so I'm not sure but I guess they are limited to the TV standards.
PCs and PC games are mostly completely free!

You can disable scaling in the graphics card driver and then create even custom resutions!

I'm playing some games via hdmi on my TV in the living room in 1640x1020 instead of 1920x1080 (I'm sitting a bit too close to the 55" TV so in some games it's just too big..).
I habe black areas all around then of unused pixels.

I have a 34" 3440x1440 monitor (a wider 27" monitor as you said yourself) and simracing is a lot better on it than with my old 27"!

Beware though: more pixels = more work for the graphics card.
I went from 1920x1080 to 3440x1440. That's 2.39x more pixels!
Luckily it's not a linear scale but my fps were almost halfed...
So depending on your graphics card, a 2560x1080 pixels 21:9 monitor might be better if you can live with slightly worse picture quality.

On my 27" with 49° fov, the left border of the view was the left A pillar and to the right I could basically see half of the windscreen.

Now on 34" 21:9 I can see the left rear mirror and see left corner apexes though the side window.
To the right I also see more, of course. I can see the cockpit rear mirror in most cars.

Assetto corsa, acc, project cars, rf2 can definitely use almost any resolution that you can imagine.
No issue with any monitor!

Here's a random picture from chat history with a friend when I got the monitor:
49° fov and I think standard seating position.
Acc though...
View attachment 442917

That view looks good maybe in a 38”. With 49” from pics I’ve seen, you almost want to place it off center or move the cockpit to the left a bit. Any observations about the 43” 32:10 monitors?

 

[Goblin616]

Somebody was on the server last night called "tagyoureit." We don't know who it was.

@Goblin616 What time were you thinking of being at practice tonight mate ?

I was hoping to get a few tips and some setup direction if you are around ?

I'll be on this afternoon, and I usually just check in all day to see if anybody is on the server. If I see someone on I jump on

 

[Goblin616]

According to 2 different calculators, my ideal FOV is 28.9 degrees! :'( - or 31 if I sit a bit closer haha

 

[beginer]

Was that you (tagyoureit) yesterday? You were laying down some laps! Nice choice with the Nissan. I watch a few of your laps in the SCG...you have to brake earlier than you think you do (at least that's what I've come to notice). For example, going into Ascari (T-8) by braking point is the person in orange (150 board?) if I brake any later I won't make it.

Just want to remind you to change your name in AC for the race on Sunday or else you'll incur the wrath of Chris.

Yep, that was me. I will be sure to change my name tonight in content manager. And thx for the heads up.
also, thx for the compliment! That nissan really flies. Im looking forward to tomorrows race!
Just to be 100% sure: if there is a blue flag, i stay on my regular racing line and leave it to the overtaking car to make the pass, right?

 

[jackdyson31]

Somebody was on the server last night called "tagyoureit." We don't know who it was.



I'll be on this afternoon, and I usually just check in all day to see if anybody is on the server. If I see someone on I jump on

Hey I just came off - end of practice on the server : I am in Italy - where are you ?

I have started to do some setup work on the Nissan - but like I'm not holding my breath - it takes quite a few laps to understand the tyres. They don't give much hint as to how far one can push them until you do ... which I think might be because I have not driven aero machines in a while.

Back at Monza !! yayyy !!

See you on track when I see you then and all the best for the evening.

PS A small ask - when I turn on TS my audio falls silent - is there some obvious cure ?

 

[demetri]

@Chris Down, is it possible for me to get the old R8 LMS car for the Sunday race? I think it's in the same pack as Lambo, so that shouldn't cause any harm to anybody

@Chris Down, Nevermind. I thought I forgot how to drive the new Audi (been driving the old one for a while lately on public servers). But no, it's allright, felt right home immediately. See y'all on Sunday

 

[demetri]

As this already became a very technically thread (racing and hardware ) I'm going to ask a VR related question. I use CM and have set the PixelsPerDisplay to 1.5 . The in-game OpenVR App always shows 1.0 PpD. Changing the value in the OpenVR App seems not to work because after the required restart, the value remains 1.0

So what value is correct? Am I running with 1.5 or 1.0?

I think that setting only works for Oculus when using direct Oculus mode (not OpenVR/SteamVR)

 

[RasmusP]

Just to be 100% sure: if there is a blue flag, i stay on my regular racing line and leave it to the overtaking car to make the pass, right?

Yes, but as soon as the overtaking car goes out of your slipstream, lift your throttle so he can go past and back on the racing line.
Don't lift the throttle at corner exit or when the car is closely behind you! It's great to get some slipstream but if you lift then, it might get too close!

If there is no straight soon (lol, it's monza, there are only straights), then try to go either wide at the apex and a bit slower so the overtaking car can shoot past you on the racing line or you keep it around the inside and let the faster car accelerate around the outside on the racing line.

But mainly do it on the straight! Drive normally and once you see the overtaking car going out of your slipstream, lift your throttle for about 1-3 seconds, depending on the gap.

Things not to do:
- don't drive off the track
- don't brake on a straight and don't brake at corner exit!!! (this is dangerous!)
- don't lift for 0,1s and expect the faster car to magically be 30 km/h faster than you on a straight

It's quite an art to let people by without costing them or yourself time. As a beginner, it's a tough job!

 

[adie_the_badie]

Just to be 100% sure: if there is a blue flag, i stay on my regular racing line and leave it to the overtaking car to make the pass, right?

Yes and no. Keep your line through tight corners such as T-1 here at Monza. Move over off the racing line and give a full lift of the throttle on straights. The blue flag doesn’t pop up until the car is 2secs behind. Be sure to have the live timing (I think that’s the name) up so you can better judge the timing.

 

[RasmusP]

Yes and no. Keep your line through tight corners such as T-1 here at Monza. Move over off the racing line and give a full lift of the throttle on straights. The blue flag doesn’t pop up until the car is 2secs behind. Be sure to have the live timing (I think that’s the name) up so you can better judge the timing.

It's called "Realtime" in ac

And you're right, moving off the racing line and then lifting is great too, but more difficult to time it.
The overtaking car might have so much more speed that he will drive a tighter line and gonna overtake at corner exit on the inside.
If the blue flagged car drives on the racing line until after the corner exit and then tried to go off the line towards the inside, a crash is likely to happen.

So if you move over as a blur flagger, always wait until your and the car behind have both exited the corner and are maneuverable again.

I'm planning to make a video about "good blue flag overtakes" since 2017... Just a few minutes best of haha.
Would help a lot I think? What do you guys think..?

 

[Interslice]

I'm planning to make a video about "good blue flag overtakes" since 2017... Just a few minutes best of haha.
Would help a lot I think? What do you guys think..?

I might have some clips of what not to do, coming into ascari, from the monza race last may

 

[Goblin616]

Hey I just came off - end of practice on the server : I am in Italy - where are you ?

I have started to do some setup work on the Nissan - but like I'm not holding my breath - it takes quite a few laps to understand the tyres. They don't give much hint as to how far one can push them until you do ... which I think might be because I have not driven aero machines in a while.

Back at Monza !! yayyy !!

See you on track when I see you then and all the best for the evening.

PS A small ask - when I turn on TS my audio falls silent - is there some obvious cure ?

Are you the one called "tagyoureit?" You must change your name. I will be on tomorrow, probably around 13:00 EST. The GT-R seems quite stable around Monza. You will need to heat up the tyres to really 'feel' them. Softs should last at least 30 minutes.

 

[Goblin616]

Was that you (tagyoureit) yesterday? You were laying down some laps! Nice choice with the Nissan. I watch a few of your laps in the SCG...you have to brake earlier than you think you do (at least that's what I've come to notice). For example, going into Ascari (T-8) by braking point is the person in orange (150 board?) if I brake any later I won't make it.

Just want to remind you to change your name in AC for the race on Sunday or else you'll incur the wrath of Chris.

This will boggle your mind. Ernie was just using the SGC:

As Chuck Yeager has said: 'Remember it's the man, not the machine.'

 

[Chris Down]

This will boggle your mind. Ernie was just using the SGC:View attachment 443178

As Chuck Yeager has said: 'Remember it's the man, not the machine.'

SCG is actually pretty fast here: @Aksu and I battled for the win with it a year or so ago

Ernie is a great driver as well, so not surprising.

 

[IceColdBeard_24]

Please free my spot I wont be able to race !!

Have a good one guys

 

[adie_the_badie]

I'm planning to make a video about "good blue flag overtakes" since 2017... Just a few minutes best of haha.
Would help a lot I think? What do you guys think..?

I think this would be wonderful! I'd be willing to be the second car for the recording if needed. I've been wanting to have some fun with the capture mode from AC to make backgrounds and avatar pictures but haven't had the time. At any rate, I'd be willing to help out with this in any capacity.

This will boggle your mind.

Seeing Ernie ( @Kek700 ) pull that time in the SCG doesn't surprise me. He's a great driver with quite a few years of racing under his belt. Seeing that time only solidifies for me the importance of practice and understanding the cars we can race in this club. Don't take this as annoyance, Frank, it does -boggle my mind- to see (would love to watch the onboard) but seeing it makes it an attainable goal. We are all human after all.
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I absolutely love the SCG though. It's stable and quite quick down the straights. However, it is not very forgiving.

 

[Goblin616]

I think this would be wonderful! I'd be willing to be the second car for the recording if needed. I've been wanting to have some fun with the capture mode from AC to make backgrounds and avatar pictures but haven't had the time. At any rate, I'd be willing to help out with this in any capacity.


Seeing Ernie ( @Kek700 ) pull that time in the SCG doesn't surprise me. He's a great driver with quite a few years of racing under his belt. Seeing that time only solidifies for me the importance of practice and understanding the cars we can race in this club. Don't take this as annoyance, Frank, it does -boggle my mind- to see (would love to watch the onboard) but seeing it makes it an attainable goal. We are all human after all.
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I absolutely love the SCG though. It's stable and quite quick down the straights. However, it is not very forgiving.

Hey Logan: Actually the reason I posted that was for this one reason - like me, you've been struggling to improve your times, and switched cars. I thought by seeing this you may be inspired to stick with it seeing that it can indeed produce fast times.

Peronsally I'm growing tired of the AMG. I normally do get bored and like to change things occasionally. (Ask me how many video games I've finished!) I just don't know what to switch to. I'm sure the Aliens could all drive AMGs and post a 1-2-3 result in them.