VWSR S3: Virtual World Series by Renault (F3.5)

[Cyril Compere]

Cyril, did you edit your multiplayer.ini to use the old prediction code or were you just on default?

I think have the default multiplayer.ini file, i don't remember to have changed anything in this file.

 

[Cyril Compere]

I need to change something in the multiplayer.ini file?

 

[Frederic Schornstein]

I need to change something in the multiplayer.ini file?

Here you can find the changes, that go back to the prediction code, which at the moment works much better especially if some cars have a 100+ ping.
http://www.racedepartment.com/forum/threads/required-client-multiplayer-settings.81483/

 

[Martin Bulgin]

Another enjoyable nights racing, in race 1 I had some sort of damage about half way through which made the car awkward to drive but I ploughed on till the end where I think I finished 12th. In race 2 I hung onto the leaders for a couple of laps but a couple of spins soon put me back down a bit, I usually pride myself on being consistent but really found it hard to get a good rythym going at Mills, 3 weeks untill the next one and as ever I'm really looking forward to it.

 

[Dino Paolini]

A very intense event for me at Mills:

Q: Had one epic lap with a crazy mid-sector a couple of minutes towards the end. I can't remember ever beating my fastest offline-time this clear. But I guess the sea of rubber helped
Still a funny gap to Arnaud in the end (0,004s).

R1: Had a rather bad start. I got a bit irritated by the car starting to roll immediatly after getting to my gridbox and with another league race in mind just a couple of days ago, where I got a false-start because of the same reason, I was not getting my timing right with holding my brakes until the last moment.

Still got only passed by Arnaud and could drive around in p2 for over half of the race.

Coudn't really stay closer to him then 2-3sec until he had an off-track excursion which led me past, with Matt always directly behind me.

Rest of the race I tried to just maximum concentrate on staying on track and to not give any chances to Matt.
Had one holy s*** moment when I got a wheel to far over the curb and had to struggle to get the car accelerating fast enough to not fall behind Matt.

Very happy with managing to not do any big mistakes in this race, even though my pace wasn't that great, especially in the first half of the race

R2:

Considering that I was the blue car flying and jumping into the wall in this vid I guess it was a very difficult race
As you can see there was nothiing anyone could do, since the lagging green car was causing the accident.

I've already called the pits, but to my amazement all 4 tires where still intact and my wings were still attached. After getting somewhat used to the offset-steering with the bent suspension I decided to carry on, even with the 1sec+ / lap slower car instead of making a who knows how long pitstop.

My goal was to hold it on track and to collect some points. There were a ton of dangerous moments with my rear getting very loose over time with my fronts not really getting to temps with the damage. I actually tried to get them hotter by sometimes overturning in corners and some small lock-ups

There was a lot of stuff happening in the race so somehow I ended up behind Andrew for the second half of the race. He didn't do any mistakes and i coudn't go any faster so stayed behind him until the end.
On the last 2 laps also Callum attacked me a couple times, 1 time with some contact after he tried it from a bit far behind which I haven't expected.
Thank god the race was over by then as the discrepeny between front- and rear-grip became worse with every lap.

-> q: 1st / r1: 1st / r2: 3rd

For next time, I hope for some better luck for my teammate and also for less stuff happenning in the race2-lottery.

btw concerning engine and brake-failures on this track. You guys should have a look at the temperatures over multiple laps. For example the engine was overheating on this track for me with anything than the higest radiator setting.
Fuji was different since there you had a very long straight to cool your engine and brakes down.

see you guys next time

 

[Frederic Schornstein]

A very intense event for me at Mills:

Q: Had one epic lap with a crazy mid-sector a couple of minutes towards the end. I can't remember ever beating my fastest offline-time this clear. But I guess the sea of rubber helped
Still a funny gap to Arnaud in the end (0,004s).

R1: Had a rather bad start. I got a bit irritated by the car starting to roll immediatly after getting to my gridbox and with another league race in mind just a couple of days ago, where I got a false-start because of the same reason, I was not getting my timing right with holding my brakes until the last moment.

Still got only passed by Arnaud and could drive around in p2 for over half of the race.

Coudn't really stay closer to him then 2-3sec until he had an off-track excursion which led me past, with Matt always directly behind me.

Rest of the race I tried to just maximum concentrate on staying on track and to not give any chances to Matt.
Had one holy s*** moment when I got a wheel to far over the curb and had to struggle to get the car accelerating fast enough to not fall behind Matt.

Very happy with managing to not do any big mistakes in this race, even though my pace wasn't that great, especially in the first half of the race

R2:


Considering that I was the blue car flying and jumping into the wall in this vid I guess it was a very difficult race
As you can see there was nothiing anyone could do, since the lagging green car was causing the accident.

I've already called the pits, but to my amazement all 4 tires where still intact and my wings were still attached. After getting somewhat used to the offset-steering with the bent suspension I decided to carry on, even with the 1sec+ / lap slower car instead of making an who knows how long pitstop.

My goal was to hold it on track and to collect some points. There were a ton of dangerous moments with my rear getting very loose over time with my fronts not really getting to temps with the damage. I actually tried to get them hotter by sometimes overturning in corners and some small lock-ups

There was a lot of stuff happening in the race so somehow I ended up behind Andrew for the second half of the race. He didn't do any mistakes and i coudn't go any faster so stayed behind him until the end.
On the last 2 laps also Callum attacked me a couple times, 1 time with some contact after he tried it from a bit far behind which I haven't expected.
Thank god the race was over by then as the discrepeny between front- and rear-grip became worse with every lap.

-> q: 1st / r1: 1st / r2: 3rd

For next time, I hope for some better luck for my teammate and also for less stuff happenning in the race2-lottery.

btw concerning engine and brake-failures on this track. You guys should have a look at the temperatures over multiple laps. For example the engine was overheating on this track for me with anything than the higest radiator setting.
Fuji was different since there you had a very long straight to cool your engine and brakes down.

see you guys next time

This track is giving the engine and brakes a really hard time. In the dark I could see my brake discs glowing for a long time even on the straights, but luckily Matt and Andrew setup the brakes and engine cooling to very high settings

In race 1 I never expected the pace I had, so I just made it on fuel. I ran out of fuel 1 sector after the finish

 

[David O'Reilly]

Thanks all for the race.
I admit that after Fuji I needed a break and was a bit underprepared.
I did 70 laps practice and my pace was well off with a 1:36.

Race 1 I was back marker but having a little battle with Borja for 6 laps or so. Then spun. 2 wings later and 5 laps down I had earned pole for race 2 with P15.

I asked my race engineers to optimise a setup for being passed.

Race 2. David Jundt got a nice early pass and then I felt a bit like the neck of a bottle with some faster guys behind me. To an extent I was happy that I just kept it on the track and they had to find a pass. The next 2 drivers got clean passes in sector 3 I think and I started lap 4 in P4 and really starting to enjpy my reprise of Kartykayan at Sepang being totally out of position.
Sadly got a tap in the gearbox into T1 and was spun, rejoined in P11.
From there I raced on until getting suspension damage and retiring.

However after Fuji it was a nice race anyway. The track was fun to drive and great graphically and I enjoyed the driving.

Thanks to Ian and RD, and thanks to fellow drivers.

 

[Kevin McDonald]

• Name & Surname: Kevin McDonald
• Round number: remainder of rounds.
• Reason: my rFactor 2 subscription has ran out and I'm unable to purchase a new one at this time.

 

[Matt Sentell]

I need to change something in the multiplayer.ini file?

No, you don't need to. The thread that Frederic linked to is worth reading but does not apply to this league, only to FSR.

The reason I asked is that your video looks almost identical to what I see in my replay, and I was on the old code. Dino felt that if he were on the new code that the incident wouldn't have affected him so badly, and perhaps it wouldn't from a collision standpoint, but I was just wondering if the new code would have handled Borja's situation any differently. It seems it didn't.

I'll forward the replay to ISI because what goes on with Borja's car is catastrophic. It starts at the beginning of the session with his car sunk into the ground in the pit lane, and then he eventually drives out after the field has gone off on the formation lap, but he's warping/popping all over the place. Eventually it seems he gets teleported to the grid. When the lights go out he doesn't move, and then his car pops to several completely different locations around the grid before appearing inside Cyril's car, at which point they both explode and take out Dino.

ISI really has to get this stuff sorted. You can't have serious leagues running rF2 with things like this being as common as they are.

 

[Matt Sentell]

Q: I had no real setup for qualifying until the Q session began, so I just experimented with things and managed to get to about one tenth behind Dino and Arnaud. Track position, unfortunately, turned out to be even more critical than I expected.

R1: Got a decent start and held onto 3rd. After the initial laps Arnaud managed to open a few seconds gap to Dino, who I was usually a second or less behind. It quickly became apparent that passing wasn't on the menu unless someone made a significant error here. We seemed to all be on similar downforce levels. The only place where I seemed to be quicker than Dino was into the first part of the chicane but that's a very risky move, and with the following cars not far behind it wasn't worth the risk. Arnaud had an error of some kind as we came up to lap the first of the traffic, letting Dino and myself through. As I expected, once Arnaud was behind us there was nothing he could do either. It was intense running so close together like that for 45 minutes but also a bit frustrating with the way the aero loss in corners prevented any overtaking. Dino drove a great race though, no mistakes, and took his first win of the series.

R2: Starting from 14th and with only a few cars behind, I didn't care to get caught up in any first lap shenanigans. I avoided trouble but then on the third lap I was getting a bit frustrated with the slow pace ahead. I was behind Arnaud and felt that I could maybe force a move into the first part of the chicane as he was keeping a big gap to the car ahead. I stuck it alongside but also kept very far inside to give him room to race, and went across the inside curb pretty aggressively. In the second part of the chicane I knew he was still there so I again gave room and don't see any contact on my end. Hopefully there was none on his, but then as we exited I was again trying to give room on the outside and it seems there was maybe some light contact at the rear as Arnaud tried to take the same line I did.

It was an aggressive move and maybe unwise so early in the race, but kudos to Arnaud for that. We pretty much went through the entire chicane side by side at racing speed. Unfortunately at the following corner, the tight downhill left, my front wing just departed the car for no apparent reason. I didn't even realize it had happened until I reached the downhill right after it and went understeering off. Pitted that lap, of course, and took 18 seconds to replace it. The rest of the race was just head down, pushing consistently and seeing what I could recover to. Thanks to Frederic for letting me past, I was able to make it up to 4th after another teammate, Calum, tragically lost his engine exiting the chicane on the final lap.

I still just have no idea why the wing came off. I've watched the replay from the start and I had no contact with anyone. The only thing I can think is it was either a random failure (I notice these are set to time-scaled) or related to how I ran over the curbs in the chicane just before it happened. But the curbs didn't jolt or launch the car or anything, so it's a bit vexing as to why that would cause a wing to come off while Dino's car could apparently flip end over end down the front straight and keep the wing on, or Frederic could nose it into the wall pretty hard and keep his. This will likely remain a mystery to me.

As Dino says, watch the brake and engine temps on this car! Brake failures will occur if you consistently overheat them, and this track was really giving the brakes a workout. Also note that the airflow needed for engine cooling is affected by slipstreaming. When you're in another car's wake, and particularly when you're very close, you'll have a lot less airflow for engine (and possibly brake) cooling.

Congrats to Dino and Arnaud on their wins. The competitiveness in this series is pretty cool. Four races, four different winners. It'll be interesting to see the points at this stage!

 

[Dino Paolini]

@Matt Sentell Maybe you did hit an invisible or barely visible object with your front-wing. I've already multiple times damaged front-wings in rf2 by hitting parts of other cars lying around on the track, which were either hard to see or even stuck into the ground halfway (or fully).

 

[Calum McLure]

On the last 2 laps also Callum attacked me a couple times, 1 time with some contact after he tried it from a bit far behind which I haven't expected.

Sorry Dino, I blame the adrenaline lol

 

[Matt Sentell]

@Matt Sentell Maybe you did hit an invisible or barely visible object with your front-wing. I've already multiple times damaged front-wings in rf2 by hitting parts of other cars lying around on the track, which were either hard to see or even stuck into the ground halfway (or fully).

Interesting, I'll check again for that. It's really weird the way it comes off, almost like it was a lag event. As if the server sent me the message to rip it off rather than it occurring locally on my machine. Reason I say this is it doesn't fly up and off, it just suddenly is off and appears behind the car. I wonder if the server can send failure/breakage events to the clients. I should check the server replay as well once that's up.

 

[David O'Reilly]

Sorry Dino, I blame the adrenaline lol

Guys I watched the battle with you two and Mr Ford for about 1/2 the race after my retirement.
It was great close racing.
Dino wedged between 2 team mates. It was as if pressure on Dino from Calum would somehow give some space to Mr Ford.
The 3 of you raced clean and hard and it was good viewing. I was watching and thinking "these Xbox lads cant do it ...can they?" anyway you did yourselves proud.
I just hope I can catch up and find some pace. The pleasure came back a bit last night and I had fun.

 

[Frederic Schornstein]

I can only recommend you all to never start from the pitlane. I checked the replay, because the traffic light at pit exit was red for a very long time. It was in fact red for 50 seconds after lights out!

In F1 they are much more friendly with that, so it is not an ideal strategy to avoid race 2 start crashes

 

[April Dillon]

I can only recommend you all to never start from the pitlane. I checked the replay, because the traffic light at pit exit was red for a very long time. It was in fact red for 50 seconds after lights out!

In F1 they are much more friendly with that, so it is not an ideal strategy to avoid race 2 start crashes

Yikes. I wonder if that varies at different tracks, but with my lap 1 drive thru penalty, I probably did better than pit lane starters!

 

[Frederic Schornstein]

Yikes. I wonder if that varies at different tracks, but with my lap 1 drive thru penalty, I probably did better than pit lane starters!

Yeah I don't know what would have happened when I would have left the pitlane under red
Maybe thats a good idea. Wait until lights out, forget about the traffic light, enjoy 3 laps of clean air and do a drive thru lol

I will test that sometime in the future. It is a bit like in Silverstone where you can actually cross the start/finish line in the pitlane, which is quicker than going to the line

 

[Martin Bulgin]

I can only recommend you all to never start from the pitlane. I checked the replay, because the traffic light at pit exit was red for a very long time. It was in fact red for 50 seconds after lights out!

In F1 they are much more friendly with that, so it is not an ideal strategy to avoid race 2 start crashes

I think for the light to go green the whole pack has to pass through sector 1, so if you get a few guys going off and losing wings it could take ages for the last car to exit sector 1, other times everyone could get through clean and the light go's green a lot quicker.

 

[Frederic Schornstein]

I think for the light to go green the whole pack has to pass through sector 1, so if you get a few guys going off and losing wings it could take ages for the last car to exit sector 1, other times everyone could get through clean and the light go's green a lot quicker.

Yes I think so too. I saw two cars not really moving after T1 and just thought: "Damn guys move!".
But it was just so great to be on fresh tyres and having tons of clean air, so I could really push the car.

The track is much easier to drive than Fuji. I seem to like high downforce tracks or very low downforce tracks in open wheelers much more than tracks like Fuji where you always need to compromise your setup between downforce and top speed.

 

[Andrew Ford]

Guys I watched the battle with you two and Mr Ford for about 1/2 the race after my retirement.
It was great close racing.
Dino wedged between 2 team mates. It was as if pressure on Dino from Calum would somehow give some space to Mr Ford.
The 3 of you raced clean and hard and it was good viewing. I was watching and thinking "these Xbox lads cant do it ...can they?" anyway you did yourselves proud.
I just hope I can catch up and find some pace. The pleasure came back a bit last night and I had fun.

I felt in control of the gap for most of the races mainly due to the tight track. In hindsight I was helped by Dino's damage and a nice bit of aggressive driving from Calum it's nice to progress from xbox to here. It's already been an amazing journey. Calum was so unlucky and continues to impress me from sim to sim. We just need to find mark g now...!