RACE 07 Racing Club (Merged)

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Hya all

As a start lets kick some WTCC cars after the pause period. :)


Time: 19.00 GMT / 20.00 CET
Practise: 30 min
Qualy: 30 min
Race: 2*10 laps
Weather: Dry

Track: Istanbul
Cars: WTCC 06 and 07

Server name: RSC # RPMnet.org
Password: spa


Server 1 - RSC @ RPMnet.org #1
  1. Attila Domján - Chevy
  2. Gareth Hickling - Peugeot
  3. Pauliebhoy Harrigan - Seat Leon
  4. Gregory Degreef - BMW E90
  5. Mehmet Arikan - Seat
  6. Jerome Benard - Alfa Romeo
  7. Cristian Haba - BMW E90
  8. Christian Deparis - Seat 07
  9. Jens Hoeppner - BMW E90
  10. Patrick van Driel -Seat Leon
  11. James Yates - BMW E46
  12. Jari Vinnari - BMW E90
  13. Marcel Hulsbergen - Alfa 156
  14. Peter Böszörményi - Seat Leon
  15. Kent Karlén - Chevy 07
  16. darron miller - Peugeot
  17. Michael Herrmann - Alfa 156
  18. Nico Major - BMW E90
  19. Rami Kaukola - BMW E90
  20. Christopher Aponte - Seat LEon
  21. Simon Trendell - Peugeot
  22. big daddy Morpheus Lightning McQueen - car tbd
  23. Baron-Rouge[NO-B] - Seat Leon
  24. ingemar petersson Seat Leon
  25. Nevermind - Seat Leon
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Keith, you are a dedicated person to RD Club and you are the "player of the year" RaceDepartment award, here is my view:


I respect the enthusiast players over the last minute joiners, just as you do. However WTCC events are a mixed crowd, you have slower members that enjoy the event, give the respect, have time to practice and fast, talented drivers.
The current format encourages both categories. You will raise the racing level if your suggestions will be applied, but it will be more exclusive and fewer players per general.


Racing lonely last position for 60 minutes is not my idea of a club event that should be about socialising as well instead of being the best.
Yes, socialising, improving, getting better, enjoy the event, if you win it means you deserved and you worked for it, if you did not you had a great time nevertheless.

I love to win just as well, and to work hard for it, to deserve it. But there are periods in our lifes when we have the time just to join and enjoy :) .
 
another sign up here!

but; please, no formation lap now, only the rule you may overtake after the first corner is been taken!

? thats a very strange rule....... i can write a thousand of words about it but i think you understand it mate.
Hope we just use the formation lap. See my answer toward Rob it will clear things up.


I know if might seem harsh, but maybe the same as the F1 and others use.

If you fail to keep up with the leading car. You maybe subject to an infraction. As that seems to be one of the issues. Some drives falling way behind. Then they fly up to the driver infront and then they are having to slam on and this then causes issues behind.

If they are doing this just to try and get a run on the driver infront then it could solve some issues.

Something like a rule of. You can drop no more than 2 or 3 car lengths before you are subject to a warning.

See this is a perfect rule, i reviewed a couple of races with standing starts and rolling starts. The standing starts have the most hard crashes. The rolling start mostly have problems in the back of the field.
- Reason -
* Some drivers are very egocentric. They try to warm the brakes, and engine. Slowing down before a corner, then accelerate through the corner like a maniac to warm things up. Followed by slamming on the brakes, and accelerating and so on on the straights.


-Sollution- *my opinion*

First and second sector are a free frenzy for warming up the car. Keep a good distance between each other. Then at the start of the 3rd sector slow the pace down to 50 (or more) kmph and form a double row formation towards the starting line.
When someone is still misbehaving in this formation lap, he will be removed from the race.
This way we can have a very clean start.
 
* Some drivers are very egocentric. They try to warm the brakes, and engine. Slowing down before a corner, then accelerate through the corner like a maniac to warm things up. Followed by slamming on the brakes, and accelerating and so on on the straights.

best way I have found to warm the brakes up which avoids this is to just ride your foot on the break slightly which builds the temps up over the formation lap and you can maintain a reasonable gap to the car in front
 
At another league we use manual formation lap, then the leader applies a pit-limiter approx 20 or so seconds before the start. This way the cars can really close up on eachother as the front car(s) all drive at the same speed and the cars can hook up close and stay there. Double file starts can be made easy this way and the back is not as far behind this way. The leader goes at the s/f line and the car behind can accelerate only when the car in front does. No T1 crashes ever since.

When / if you evaluate this system please think of good parts and don't poop on it only 'cause it's different. Thank you.
 
At another league we use manual formation lap, then the leader applies a pit-limiter approx 20 or so seconds before the start. This way the cars can really close up on eachother as the front car(s) all drive at the same speed and the cars can hook up close and stay there. Double file starts can be made easy this way and the back is not as far behind this way. The leader goes at the s/f line and the car behind can accelerate only when the car in front does. No T1 crashes ever since.

When / if you evaluate this system please think of good parts and don't poop on it only 'cause it's different. Thank you.


Well if you see my answer in the post before this one. YOu can see that this is the perfect method you discripe for the whole formation lap.
Hugo can you please review the whole thing. I will make a overview so you don't need to read every post. BTW. Thnx for the proffesional and mature sollutions guys. This is the way to discuss possible improvements *no sarcasme* :)love:)

Under: Previous answer as stated in the first phrase.

If you fail to keep up with the leading car. You maybe subject to an infraction. As that seems to be one of the issues. Some drives falling way behind. Then they fly up to the driver infront and then they are having to slam on and this then causes issues behind.

If they are doing this just to try and get a run on the driver infront then it could solve some issues.

Something like a rule of. You can drop no more than 2 or 3 car lengths before you are subject to a warning.

See this is a perfect rule, i reviewed a couple of races with standing starts and rolling starts. The standing starts have the most hard crashes. The rolling start mostly have problems in the back of the field.
- Reason -
* Some drivers are very egocentric. They try to warm the brakes, and engine. Slowing down before a corner, then accelerate through the corner like a maniac to warm things up. Followed by slamming on the brakes, and accelerating and so on on the straights.


-Sollution- *my opinion*

First and second sector are a free frenzy for warming up the car. Keep a good distance between each other. Then at the start of the 3rd sector slow the pace down to 50 (or more) kmph and form a double row formation towards the starting line.
When someone is still misbehaving in this formation lap, he will be removed from the race.
This way we can have a very clean start.
 
Quali 3rd....
Race 1 made a mistake somewhere lap 9 i spin over the head and then i landen in " No mans land......)Floated around for 2 minutes and then i was DQ.

So i dicided to wait Race 2;
because i ended race 1 8th i ( would ) have been on POLE>>>>
30sec. before race started i get MINIDUMP(errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr)
So race over.

Maybe next week again.
 
I have red them all Yuri :) I see some good points there and I'll make some new rules regarding the rolling start. There has to be a way to do it perfectly in the club. I saw the replay of last weeks race and the driving standard of you guys is pretty good, so we can do this, that for sure.

@ Stefan: Yes, there will be a doling start

@ Tom: the speed limiter is a good idea, I think we gonna try that one.

To all, thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it :)
 
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