AMS2 Fake 24 Hours of Spa - Friday May 13, 2022

Smidgey · May 13, 2022

Magnus Dahlgren said:
File location:
C:\Users\-your username-\Documents\Automobilista 2\savegame\103706361\automobilista 2\media

Then it's a .med file. Which one, probably the one with the most recent date since they all have strange names...

the string of numbers will be different to each person but you should only have one folder in there (its your SteamID)

T1MKO · May 13, 2022

"View from the back"
That was good fun and I kept the P2 facing the right way for the whole race so I'm definetly improving race by race.
The fog layers were awesome in VR.
I got the fuel strategy wrong as I still had 45litres left at the end so need to work out fuel usage better for the next time. Also need to assign a pit limiter key as i got penalised for pit lane.
It was tricky trying not hold up the GT1 guys for too long.
Thanks Bram for organising.

Reiche · May 13, 2022

Microsoft OneDrive

1drv.ms

Am I doing this right?

GeekyDeaks · May 13, 2022

mktjf said:
It was tricky trying not hold up the GT1 guys for too long.

This is probably the main reason I think multiclass isn't something for an event with 'rookies' in the description. I'm an old fart and it's tricky enough keeping my own car on the track, let alone worrying about someone else that is approaching far quicker than I can properly estimate. I had the misfortune to clobber someone at the top of raidillon, which surely must have buggered up their race, but I also saw two other instances where people got tangled with the slower class too

Smidgey · May 13, 2022

- Link to my race PoV. Might want to give it a bit before watching so YouTube can do its thing with the video quality.

If people don't have any issues with it going forward I'm more than happy to stream the races going forward.

T1MKO · May 13, 2022

GeekyDeaks said:
This is probably the main reason I think multiclass isn't something for an event with 'rookies' in the description. I'm an old fart and it's tricky enough keeping my own car on the track, let alone worrying about someone else that is approaching far quicker than I can properly estimate. I had the misfortune to clobber someone at the top of raidillon, which surely must have buggered up their race, but I also saw two other instances where people got tangled with the slower class too

I managed to avoid contact with any other car, I have just started using Crew Chief and it is quite good at warning you of faster cars approaching etc. It even told me the GT1 class leader was approaching which I thought was pretty cool.

Bhutch88 · May 13, 2022

mktjf said:
I managed to avoid contact with any other car, I have just started using Crew Chief and it is quite good at warning you of faster cars approaching etc. It even told me the GT1 class leader was approaching which I thought was pretty cool.

It keep telling me my tyres were cold ..which they weren't lol

danny26 · May 13, 2022

These Friday night races keep getting better and better. I might be the only person with this opinion but I think I actually prefer the P2 to the P3 - I had so much fun dialling in just the right amount of TC to let me kick the tail out in sector 2

I was part of some of the closest racing I've experienced in my short time at RD, these kind of experiences are really helping me develop my racecraft and consistency. Cheers to the P2 guys around P17-P20 for some really great battles!

On the multiclass element - I can see why it can be a frustrating experience for some, and I totally understand why people want to move away from it. I personally witnessed 2 major inter-class incidents at Blanchimont and Raidillon that could have been avoided. But just to give my perspective as someone finding his feet in sim racing - I've learned so much from being part of a slower class. Keeping an eye on mirrors and blue flags, jumping off line at the right time to let a battle come through, trying to grab a little bit of a tow through Blanchimont or the Kemmel to help in whatever P2 battle I'm trying to win, it's all an awesome experience, especially in a race designed for us rookies to learn this kind of thing. Also having an "alien class" (anyone in GT1 was an alien in comparison to me) and a rookie class gave me a clear indicator of who to actually battle and who to simply allow past. In single class racing I'm often thinking "is this guy in my kind of skill/speed window or should I jump out the way?" That wasn't really a consideration tonight, and the wheel-to-wheel racing that I got stuck into was really memorable as a result.

Bloody hell that was longer than I was expecting

as always, cheers to Bram for organising and to everyone else for taking part. Also, spa at night is drop-dead gorgeous.

The Almighty Snark · May 13, 2022

GeekyDeaks said:
Hey @Casper de Wit was it you I took out at the top of raidillon? So sorry, I was just a little too focused at that bit of the track and didn't realise you had closed in so quickly

Yep! No worries, I was passing you at the top as we entered the Kemmel Straight and I thought you had seen me!

At lap one I got a bit of a knock in the back that set me down about half way to the P2 field. Had a fun fight getting on the tail of Red Vailiant and managed to overtake him eventually! I love these GT1's.

Sorry for the bad overtake on my part @Bram Hengeveld , I was too focussed on Enzo closing in on me.

The 24hr format is lovely, really enjoyed all of it.

Magnus Dahlgren · May 13, 2022

Reiche said:
Microsoft OneDrive

1drv.ms

Am I doing this right?

Excellent! Thank you yet again!

RevSome · May 13, 2022

GeekyDeaks said:
This is probably the main reason I think multiclass isn't something for an event with 'rookies' in the description. I'm an old fart and it's tricky enough keeping my own car on the track, let alone worrying about someone else that is approaching far quicker than I can properly estimate. I had the misfortune to clobber someone at the top of raidillon, which surely must have buggered up their race, but I also saw two other instances where people got tangled with the slower class too

think we had a nice battle for position early on, scott! you had my measure from pouhon to stavelot- got collected by an excited P1 after exiting blanchimont at sunset and switched to hypermiling thru the short night to recover. stopped very late but my HMD (v-cosmos) decided to reboot on the final lap. still fun, mostly..

T1MKO · May 13, 2022

dannyhughan said:
These Friday night races keep getting better and better. I might be the only person with this opinion but I think I actually prefer the P2 to the P3 - I had so much fun dialling in just the right amount of TC to let me kick the tail out in sector 2

I was part of some of the closest racing I've experienced in my short time at RD, these kind of experiences are really helping me develop my racecraft and consistency. Cheers to the P2 guys around P17-P20 for some really great battles!

On the multiclass element - I can see why it can be a frustrating experience for some, and I totally understand why people want to move away from it. I personally witnessed 2 major inter-class incidents at Blanchimont and Raidillon that could have been avoided. But just to give my perspective as someone finding his feet in sim racing - I've learned so much from being part of a slower class. Keeping an eye on mirrors and blue flags, jumping off line at the right time to let a battle come through, trying to grab a little bit of a tow through Blanchimont or the Kemmel to help in whatever P2 battle I'm trying to win, it's all an awesome experience, especially in a race designed for us rookies to learn this kind of thing. Also having an "alien class" (anyone in GT1 was an alien in comparison to me) and a rookie class gave me a clear indicator of who to actually battle and who to simply allow past. In single class racing I'm often thinking "is this guy in my kind of skill/speed window or should I jump out the way?" That wasn't really a consideration tonight, and the wheel-to-wheel racing that I got stuck into was really memorable as a result.

Bloody hell that was longer than I was expecting as always, cheers to Bram for organising and to everyone else for taking part. Also, spa at night is drop-dead gorgeous.

They had TC adjustment ? Never checked that. Bugger.

GeekyDeaks · May 13, 2022

Bandana said:
think we had a nice battle for position early on, scott!

Ah, were you Rev[something] in game? That was a great battle. I was a tiny bit more confident on the brakes but you were absolutely nailing the exits

Smidgey · May 13, 2022

So as someone that was done a lot of multiclass and endurance racing in sims over the years, my main bits of advice are

Slower cars

Be predictable - Dont randomly slow down to let faster cars by or swerve across the track
Hold your line - follow up to number 1. Far easier for the faster car to handle the overtake when you're consistent in just holding your line into a corner.
Be prepared - Use whatever tools you have access to (Crew Chief, ingame relative timings, mirrors) to prepare for faster cars approaching.

Faster cars

Be patient - Don't just send it every half chance you get to overtake a slower class car - some tracks will require you to sit behind a slower class car until you can safely make an overtake - Better to lose 2 seconds now than end yours and another cars race because you got impatient.
Know where you're faster - This wasn't too much of a challenge tonight as the GT1s outclasses the P2 almost anywhere but sometimes you'll have combos where the classes have similar cornering or straight line speeds. Use practice to work out where you're going to be faster and remember point 1 about patience. These tend to be longer races so you'll make whatever time back when the car ahead runs into traffic in a similar situation.

This is absolutely not a rant or aimed at anyone inparticular. I didn't see anything too outrageous this evening from my PoV so this is already an improvement over basically any other endurace type event of done over the years

GeekyDeaks · May 13, 2022

mktjf said:
I managed to avoid contact with any other car, I have just started using Crew Chief and it is quite good at warning you of faster cars approaching etc. It even told me the GT1 class leader was approaching which I thought was pretty cool.

Damn, I should have expected someone would immediately prove me incorrect

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Well done though. Too often people seem to feel the need to be fast when they start racing, but I found keeping out of trouble was a better skill to learn early on

T1MKO · May 13, 2022

GeekyDeaks said:
Damn, I should have expected someone would immediately prove me incorrect .

Well done though. Too often people seem to feel the need to be fast when they start racing, but I found keeping out of trouble was a better skill to learn early on

Considering that was the first race in a P2 I found it easier to handle than the P3's, perhaps it's because it's not on the ragged edge all the time. Give me a few more races and hopefully I'll be up your chuff

GeekyDeaks · May 13, 2022

dannyhughan said:
I was part of some of the closest racing I've experienced in my short time at RD, these kind of experiences are really helping me develop my racecraft and consistency. Cheers to the P2 guys around P17-P20 for some really great battles!

Was it you me and rev battling away in the early stages? That was some great racing. Really clean and respectful. I was still getting accustomed to the car and it was really interesting seeing where people were confident in the car and trying to quickly adapt your own lines and braking points

Smidgey · May 13, 2022

Starting to wonder if those glitches a lot of us were getting were tied to pit crews loading in and out? Seems like the freezes lined up with the pit windows rather than specific day/night stuff.

danny26 · May 14, 2022

GeekyDeaks said:
Was it you me and rev battling away in the early stages? That was some great racing. Really clean and respectful. I was still getting accustomed to the car and it was really interesting seeing where people were confident in the car and trying to quickly adapt your own lines and braking points

I think it was - we went around nose to tail for a fair few laps before a couple of unrelated incidents split us all up as night fell. It was a shame because we were having a magnificent fight!

Shortly afterwards, I ended up in the pitlane twice in 2 laps after completely missing my pit box on the first attempt, so my focus turned to battling Tim and Stefan at the back. If I remember correctly, I managed to get past Tim when his tail got a bit loose coming out of the bus stop, and Stefan and I somehow fought all the way through Pouhon at full tilt. Just some incredible racing throughout.

Enzo Fazzi · May 14, 2022

Smidgey said:
Starting to wonder if those glitches a lot of us were getting were tied to pit crews loading in and out? Seems like the freezes lined up with the pit windows rather than specific day/night stuff.

Crossed my mind as well. 2 people said they had a freeze just as I left my pitbox after my stop.

Personally I didn't have any freezes at all.