F1 20xx - The Game Leagues (Archive)

Bram Hengeveld · Sep 20, 2010

Game: F1 2010 - The Game by Codemasters. Click here to buy it directly from Steam
Class: Formula 1
Track: Various Tracks (Ralf Eiden Style = random selection)
Weather: Dry
Opens: 19:00 GMT
Ends: Do we?
Password & Rules: click here

crashtobefast · Apr 20, 2014

Saif Mehmood said:
"1.4 You must keep two wheels within the white line. Repeatedly cutting and extending will result in a punishment."

The thing is, that rule isn't successfully enforced in real life F1, so how I don't know how we can expect to enforce it when most of us don't even record. What I know is that no one goes a full race distance without cutting a corner and some get away with it more than others. If someone is faster, it could be completely legitimate but there's always a niggle that they could be cutting more than me and gaining an advantage from that. I don't think it's something that we can completely prevent but around a track like this I think we could do a better job than we are doing.

I'm sure Frede wouldn't do a lap like that in actual quali, so I'm not criticising him when I say this but if I did see a lap like this I would feel a bit annoyed because of the cut at T2 and the extending on the exit of T7 and the entry and exit of T13.

That being said, I think we should allow some leeway at a track like Bahrain where the cutting and extending is very minor. Under the current rules I'm wouldn't be too happy with it but I really think we should allow a lap like that. I think the corner cutting rules would apply more to tracks like Montreal and Monza.

Saif Mehmood · Apr 20, 2014

In a race distance with high fuel and tyre wear its enevtible that you'll have people cutting corners occasionally, however that doesn't mean you can run your whole qualifying lap cutting corners/running wide and then doing it all race long, the rule is there to catch those out who are consistently doing it to gain an advantage.

Shane Butler · Apr 20, 2014

It's quite baffling the amount of people who post here to sign up and then we don't hear from them ever again.

crashtobefast · Apr 20, 2014

Saif Mehmood said:
In a race distance with high fuel and tyre wear its enevtible that you'll have people cutting corners occasionally, however that doesn't mean you can run your whole qualifying lap cutting corners/running wide and then doing it all race long, the rule is there to catch those out who are consistently doing it to gain an advantage.

What exactly would happen if someone did a lap like the one above then? Would it be penalised?

Ashley Blakeley · Apr 20, 2014

crashtobefast said:
What exactly would happen if someone did a lap like the one above then? Would it be penalised?

you would think so

Jamie-Lee Mayers · Apr 20, 2014

RIght, lets get something perfectly clear. The rules of this league are not selective. 100% of them apply 100% of the time. The majority of us record so whether in qualifying or the race, someone will be watched. If anyone is seen to be driving in an unfair manner, they will be dealt with. Simple as that.

Andrew Wood · Apr 20, 2014

Again, guys you need to use your common sense here. There is a difference between cutting a few corners over the course of the race whilst trying your best to remain within the track boundaries and blatantly making your own boundaries of the track. There are a few things in that video above that bug me such as the scandinavian flicks on entry of the corners that put the car off the track to open up the corner because all that's doing is allowing you to take the corner at a high gear. If you're leaving the track to do that, then that is extending.

I believe I called out Frede for doing this at the same track last season and I can see that the line has not changed, so in that case, that would be an illegal lap as far as I'm concerned.

Josh Johnson · Apr 20, 2014

I could add that when I kart marshal, the rules state that the kerbs are an extension of the white line.

The MSA do have silly rules saying you can't overtake when you have two wheels off track.

Clearly the top one isn't allowed, while the game would allow you to get away with the latter.

crashtobefast · Apr 20, 2014

This is a bit picky but I just want to be sure - are we calling the white lines as part of the track or not? I've never been sure and the white lines are so thick around here that it can make a difference.

Josh Johnson · Apr 20, 2014

So as long you are not 4 wheels over you should be fine.

Jamie-Lee Mayers · Apr 20, 2014

Look, just drive properly lol I dont even know why we're having this discussion tbh. You're all smart people, apart from Frede apparently, who has posted that as some kind of tutorial or something. If we see any driving like that not just on this circuit but on any other, the person doing it will be dealt with and trust me. You don't want that to happen.

Dylan Lopez · Apr 20, 2014

Oli Peacock said:
Calendar is up! Shortened and remixed a little to keep you on ya toes

Now that we know where we are racing, when abouts will we be finding out our teammates?

Harry Westwood · Apr 20, 2014

Dylan Lopez said:
Now that we know where we are racing, when abouts will we be finding out our teammates?

Read what I posted 2 posts above

lol

Dylan Lopez · Apr 21, 2014

Harry Westwood said:
Read what I posted 2 posts above lol

Sounds like it's gonna be a busy week pulling all the signed drivers together who haven't got their licenses, etc.

Mattias Johansen · Apr 21, 2014

Jamie-Lee Mayers said:
Look, just drive properly lol I dont even know why we're having this discussion tbh. You're all smart people, apart from Frede apparently, who has posted that as some kind of tutorial or something. If we see any driving like that not just on this circuit but on any other, the person doing it will be dealt with and trust me. You don't want that to happen.

Frederik didn't do that lap in a qualifying session, so why call him un-smart? You can have a discussion about corner cutting, but you don't have to attack Frederik just because he posted an illegal lap on youtube while doing grand prix mode. That's just ridiculous and frankly bad behaviour from a guy who's a championship COO...

Jamie-Lee Mayers · Apr 21, 2014

Mattias Johansen said:
Frederik didn't do that lap in a qualifying session, so why call him un-smart? You can have a discussion about corner cutting, but you don't have to attack Frederik just because he posted an illegal lap on youtube while doing grand prix mode. That's just ridiculous and frankly bad behaviour from a guy who's a championship COO...

The last time Frede posted, he said this...

Frederik Dupond said:
Believe it or not, but I have found pretty amazing pace round here after I tweaked my setup. I will upload setup and hotlap video tomorrow, hope it can help some of the struggling guys!!

and that's the lap that he uploads. I think I'm entitled to my opinion on it.