Well, Maldonado on pole.
Looks like Williams' pay driver... paid off.
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I'll get my coat.
Looks like Williams' pay driver... paid off.
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I'll get my coat.
2012 Formula One Spanish Grand Prix
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Yeah, but to my knowledge he did this after Q3 was done and no one was still doing a hot lap so he didn't affect anyone. I would have got the penalty more if he would have affected someone else's lap.
Maybe, but there's just one rule for qualy and practice.. And imo it would be just stupid to add an exception for this stuff. In that case everyone would do this in the last minute.
1. To qualify as light as possible
2. To reduce wear of the tyres.
IMO: This is the rule and just stick to it. Any violation of the rule = DQ.
1. To qualify as light as possible
2. To reduce wear of the tyres.
IMO: This is the rule and just stick to it. Any violation of the rule = DQ.
Well Again Mclaren costed Lewis and i was thinking that Martin Whitmarsh only want to see JB on top Not Lewis that's why he was doing so
I wish Lewis Don't sign contract of MClaren next year and if possible go to Mercedes he can get better treatment over there with
One thing i was happy that they let him to race He can be at points for sure i think Wet race can help Him but can't say how much
I wish Lewis Don't sign contract of MClaren next year and if possible go to Mercedes he can get better treatment over there with
One thing i was happy that they let him to race He can be at points for sure i think Wet race can help Him but can't say how much
Well if it rains then they will surely use Rain tires
What race it could be Wet or Dry??
You have to leave 1L for FIA to test. So if you do your lap when the session ends it means you need to go in and leave a test to FIA.
Now if you want to run as light as possible you just make your run earlier without that 1L then come back in, refuel, go around one lap come back in and giva FIA a sample.
After Qualifying. Running around in the pits taking samples from cars while the session is running won´t work.
The reason you need to get back to pits is because FIA wants a fuel sample so you can´t cheat and run a lighter car then everyone else.
But it´s ok to run a tiny bit lighter then everyone else for 66 laps but not for 10 minutes in Q3.
Ron Dennis needs to come back, Martin has consistently showed us what an incompetent fool he is.
But the Main Point is MS had almost Fresh sets at every stint and for Lewis he didn't have Fresh Soft tires to gain over others
Agree I wish Either Martin or Lewis should leave Mclaren at the End of Year it looks like Only JB is Mclaren Driver not LH
How much more is he supposed to take?
Worst year in the history of his career last year, trying to get things back on track this year but it just happens sh*t to him on a regular basis.
Worst year in the history of his career last year, trying to get things back on track this year but it just happens sh*t to him on a regular basis.
Just as i said Hampus
Either Lewis or Martin Should leave Mclaren I wish Lewis Leaves mclaren he had enough with this team
He doesn't need to sign contract such a good player at a such a waste team
he can be at williams or Lotus or Mercedes Next year so that he can Do Miracles by Winning from them
Until Now i thought Mclaren was the Good team besides Mercedes and RBR but since Yesterday i've changed my Decision
Either Lewis or Martin Should leave Mclaren I wish Lewis Leaves mclaren he had enough with this team
He doesn't need to sign contract such a good player at a such a waste team
he can be at williams or Lotus or Mercedes Next year so that he can Do Miracles by Winning from them
Until Now i thought Mclaren was the Good team besides Mercedes and RBR but since Yesterday i've changed my Decision
Martin should go. He is the one responsible for everything that happens.
I also might got something for Markus, not sure yet but im looking for more information.
I also might got something for Markus, not sure yet but im looking for more information.
Gary Anderson saw what happened.
The fuel rig guy put the rig on, but he had the handle set to drain fuel.
He discovered his mistake and switched it to put fuel in the car. But as a result he didn't put as much fuel in it as he should have.
You have to be able to drive back to the pit-lane and have one litre of fuel left for the FIA to test.
He went across the start-finish line 20 seconds before the chequered flag but if they had sat in the garage for three or four more seconds to get more fuel in, they still would have had time to cross the line and complete another flying lap. Sometimes I don't think McLaren think on their feet."
The fuel rig guy put the rig on, but he had the handle set to drain fuel.
He discovered his mistake and switched it to put fuel in the car. But as a result he didn't put as much fuel in it as he should have.
You have to be able to drive back to the pit-lane and have one litre of fuel left for the FIA to test.
He went across the start-finish line 20 seconds before the chequered flag but if they had sat in the garage for three or four more seconds to get more fuel in, they still would have had time to cross the line and complete another flying lap. Sometimes I don't think McLaren think on their feet."
It's harsh but not the first time someone was excluded from qualifying. Jacques Villeneuve got put to the back after his team(Sauber) accidentally breached parc ferme regulations in 2005 at Brazil. They changed a part and he got put to the back for parc ferme infringement. Sauber made an honest mistake and JV is put to the back. Mclaren makes an honest mistake and gets put to the back. Seems consistent in that respect. So it's not like there's a different set of rules for Hamilton. Rules are rules...and you will be excluded if they're not followed.
I have not checked if 100% of what I've been reading is factual, but from what I understand:
- Car stopped after Q (that one is clear)
- Car had barely the minimum amount of fuel for testing, so more than reasonable doubt exists that he would not get to pits with 1l.
So far, deserves a penalty. Now, why so harsh?
- Race directors inquiry about reason to stop.
- Team defends that there were superior force causes for it (so they could skip penalization).
And my guess here: - No other reason other than lack of fuel is found. Superior force is (at least for me), the car is burning, the oil temperature is rising enormously, the kers capacitors are about to explode, one wheel came loose, etc. Running on fumes is not one of those, they could go on to pits and show an empty tank and face penalization. Or they could abort the last Q lap, be 6th and no problems.
But they did neither, they went on, made pole, and then tried to escape punishment by twisting the interpretation of the rule. Thus the extra severe penalty. And lets not forget that this fuel rule exists solely because precisely the same actors (Hamilton/Mclaren) pulled off a similar stunt two years ago.
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