2012 Formula One Brazilian Grand Prix

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How about when Alonso messed up his braking point going into turn #1 in the early laps of the race and then clearly cut across the track in order to maintain track position. He didn't do this just once (messing up and cutting the track), he did it twice though the second time likely would not have resulted in losing track position because there was nobody close to him the second time he messed up.

They gave Vettel a 20 second penalty in Germany for leaving the track gaining an advantage. If you were truly honest about wanting to be fair, you would also acknowledge that Alonso should be given one maybe two 20 second penalties in Brazil for cutting the track to maintain his advantage of track position. :sneaky:
thats running wide and those are run off areas.he did not overtook anybody or gain anything here,:rolleyes: duuuuh

unlike Vettel who actually overtook Button literally outside the white line and even the kerbs. AND this one was on a 100% dry non greasy surface. Plus the penalty would of been better before the end of the race than later, but thats just FIA.

no such thing as "maintaining" advantage in the regulations. matter fact he lost valuable time, that matters none now, so no I dont see anything here.

Brazil is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay different, so please, for more than once your are WRONG.:roflmao: fanboy
 
I read on a german website that the stewards/FIA said, that the flags were yellow/red for the slippery track and the lights were yellow, but they were not blinking for an iccident there. They were permenantly on to inform the driver about the slippery track which in that case allows overtaking

So problem solved, discussion over, Vettel stays WDC :)
 
I know I'm becoming annoying by continuing this but I'm still not convinced of what happened.

http://i.imgur.com/eGXto.png
http://i.imgur.com/6teR7.png

That still looks like yellow to me. Interesting though is the fact that those yellow flags are not signaled in Sebastian's car.

I just want to see if I'm wrong. This is what I saw.

At the entrance of turn 8 there were two warnings indicated.
1. Y ellow flag (which was in fact the display light) similar to the one in the picture above.
http://goo.gl/McW8V
2. Yellow and red striped flag
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:F1_yellow_flag_with_red_stripes.svg

Up untill turn 11 I saw other yellow flags/ lights.
On the straight between turns 11-12(-13) you could see a green flag/ light. From there on untill the start/ finish line there were tons of yellow flags and lights.

My memory ain't as good as it was years ago but this is how I remeber the circuit was signaled in that period. Correct me if I'm mistaking.
 
The yellow blinking lights were there because of Grosjeans car, right?
So that means in the zone from turn 11 to 13 should be yellow waved flags and yellow blinking lights. Or was there another incident causing yellows at that point of the race?
The pictures you posted was in turn 14 for what I can tell. Is this the overtake we are talking about?
If yes, the question is, if the lights were blinking or permanently switched on. Apperently it does make a diffrence according to my source, which is also new to me.
I didn't even know that the lights can be switched on permanently. Does it say something about this in the rules?
 
Wheres the shame in being gay?
Im homophobic almost but to say it's a shame someone is gay is the dumbest thing ive ever heard.
Gay is also not something that only exists among humans but quite a large number of animals have gay tendencies.

You might as well have said it's a shame Hamilton is black....
 
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