First just let me point out that due to nowadays RL commitments, my simulation hours are very shortened from what they were a few months back, as such my “vote” counts very little as I‘ve been only able to do about 1 or 2 events a moth.
When I first saw the name of the series, “Ferrari-vs- Porsche”, I thought it was kind of a joke…
Kind of like, a few "valiant" guys would try to “outdrive” the 997 into the front of the 430.
The 430 has on average from mid to high rpm about more 40 hp than the 997 in the mod.
The 430 not only has a power peak well above the 997 (
at higher rpm), but more importantly it has more
hp in the mid-high range of its engine (
6500-7500 rpm) and really "murders" the 997 in a straight-quick part.
The 430 will arrive at the top speed quicker than the 997.:tongue:
In this event I had 5 very good fights with some of you, 4 of these were against 430 virtual racers. I lost these same 4 almost all in the same way… Even without me making a mistake, three times the 430 would out-drag me from the exit of the turn until a little bit after the middle of the straight (considering the start/finish turn a straight) and as we all know there were only 2 “straights” on the track.
Some of you will remember/say:” Huh, but we had 3 997 in the first 3 spots of the grid!?!”.
Correct, but there weren’t that many straights on this track… :wink:
The 997 virtual racer in order to keep-up with the 430 one as to remove aerodynamic support and relay much in mechanical grip…
For one or 2 laps, no problem, if something goes wrong, just press esq. and start again
For a full race… The 997 to be virtually driven fast has to be driven “light” in the rear, most of the people who went with the 997 this last event know very well what I’m talking about, after all the single reason I for instances took it was because of this same “fun” (
power slide over the top of the hill anyone?!, ).
The things work well at start… but even if you go easy with the spin (
even no spin), there comes a time were the mechanical grip in the rear no longer is sufficient to keep the rear at acceptably angles.
The 430 will lose grip too… but not only it has a central engine but also it doesn’t need such low wing in the rear to keep with the 997 in first place.
How about some of the other GT Sport cars mixed in or are they slow by comparison?
I did many races with the full GTS (
SimBIn GTS+ 430-997 mod) in
Dijon, always took the 997, what I leaned at the time was: If I wanted to keep up early with 430 had to have very little wing, but once the second ½ of the stint arrived, or I power slide all the way entering the start finish straight or I took the foot off (
either way losing big time with it).
The “good” option at the time was to have wing sufficient to keep the rear in place at later stages (
losing some time to the 430 early on) and wait for the 430 to blow-up their engine.
This last option worked well for races above 60 minutes, until… most people leaned the meaning of the “
life time rpm value” variable.
Yes the Ferrari will blow-up quicker than the 997, but excluding a bad luck of a poor engine health start (
<50%), the 430 racer can make the engine last for 3 hours and be the quickest all the same.
Without going into much explanations… simple GTS table
For very long races (above 3 hours, depends on the track): C6 and maybe the 997.
For most situations, in order of “quickness”: 430, 997, C6, M3, C8…. Toledo in last.
Short races without many long straights: 430, 997, C8, M3, C6… Toledo.
Brands Indy kind of circuit but short race (less or about 20 minutes): 997-430, M3, C8…
- The M3 does a good job everywhere.
- The C6 is the long distance runner (and long straights original SimBin class racer) but very few have done races above 3 hours.
- The 430 can win in every situation but the “exotic” above 3 hours event.
- The 997 is very good option everywhere, the only problem, the 430 will out-pace it in almost all situations.
- The C8 the exotic simbin original car that can be driven quickly on the edge in sprint races (not much above 90 minutes).
Sugestions
In other clubs in some virtual-racer oriented championships, people have to race a different car every track… for instances, those that drove a 430 yesterday, will drive a 997 the next and so for…
For instances a championship with 8 races, with 8 different cars, everyone has to drive a different car every track (use tracks not much different, balanced modern tracks for instances) on the first race luck will decided who drives what, 2nd & forward is predetermined….
Another idea send the top 8 of an event to use the mandatory 997 next one, bring the last 8 to a mandatory 430….
If like me you don’t have much time (or maybe there are already too many championships), just want some “fun” series but with some power, go to fun old tracks and have close fights… Use the Porsche 935 mod, it is fun… it has physical limitations, but I’m sure most who have tried had a blast.:wink:
Speaking o mod limitations, obviously there are limitations with the 430-997 mod, but funny enough in RL 2006-2008 GT2 racing the 430 was generally the quickest (
king of the 2 hours events) but less durable when compared with GT2 Porsche (
12 hrs to 24 hrs). In anyway, the mod has it "right" and I don’t think anyone who has driven the GT2 430 or any racing Porsche will be negatively chocked by the physical behavior of any of these mods (
maybe they just exaggerate certain typical behaviors, kind like a caricatures).
Sorry, I almost made a book of this, cheers & good luck with the series.
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