Alright when was that again.....?

[Andreas Hultgren]

Ian Ashley in his Token-Ford at the famous Karussel, Nordschleife in '74

Btw, I need to read more carfull. You said Morocco but it was Monza... I have done this mistake before Will try not to do it again... Shame on me!

 

[Derek Tatters]

All correct Andreas

 

[Eckhart von Glan]

lol: Token-Ford, now there's a name to relish. did they race just as a token? If so, what was the real purpose behind fielding the car? One wonders.

 

[Derek Tatters]

It was no token effort to begin with. It started out as Ron Dennis's 1st attempt at Formula 1 (about 10 years before he got control at McLaren). But after the design was completed, the sponsor pulled out, so he sold the design to the people who named it Token, and stayed in Formula 2 instead

 

[Eckhart von Glan]

well impressed, teaches us there is always a second chance (but hopefully not for this ugly duckling)

 

[Andreas Hultgren]

Sorry for taking so long but here it is:

 

[Eckhart von Glan]

GP Canada 1990 - Ferrari 6412 - Nigel Mansell (GB)

started 7th, finished 3rd
from the last generation of acceptable formula1 design, before the noses went up and the level of design down, down down ever since

 

[Andreas Hultgren]

Wow, harsh post theer Eck All correct by the way so over to you!

 

[Eckhart von Glan]

thx andreas, will post tonite or tomorrow morning, busy day today

 

[Eckhart von Glan]

easy peasy

shouldn't be difficult, but I just needed to remind everyone of the famous "all-wing" car

 

[Andreas Hultgren]

That is the Arrows from '79... and I will say Watkins Glen?

 

[Eckhart von Glan]

ok, no driver in the car, but track is wrong, at least according to my source (though I must admit it looks a little like the Glen)

 

[Andreas Hultgren]

I found the car with the Texaco spons in the background but from another angle but it only said '79, nothing else... But I wll go with Sivlerstone then?

Edit: And it looks like it is Jochen Mass's car. think it is the beginning of a 3 that is vissible.

 

[Eckhart von Glan]

everything correct now, it is indeed Mass's arrows in the pits at silvers, over to you!

 

[Andreas Hultgren]

Ok, here is the new one

 

[Derek Tatters]

Its old Regga.

1973, Clay Regazzoni in a BRM P160, Buenos Aires

 

[Andreas Hultgren]

Indeed it is, Derek! Over to you

 

[Derek Tatters]

OK, here it is

 

[Andreas Hultgren]

Just by the looks of it I would say Chris Amon in his own car. Looks like Watkins Glen (lol, always going for Watkins it seems) and I say... '74? Probably wrong on all

 

[Eckhart von Glan]

driver and car dead on but it can't be Watkins because they never fielded a car there

it's a little piece of sleuthing one has to do here: the car was only fielded in Spain, Belgium, Monaco, Germany, and Italy. The number shown here was only used in the first four, so Monza is out. For Germany there was a new wing made of one part, so Green Hell is out, too. For Monaco there was also another wing, thick ugly thing with radiators in it, so Monaco is out, too. That leaves only Jarama and Spa. Since one of my sources claims the car never reached Spa but sat in the workshop, I'll stick with Jarama.

This is the original design, btw: