2013 Formula One Malaysian Grand Prix
- Thread starter Bram Hengeveld
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Tooo early too early. Only 2nd race... But come on face it Rosberg and Webber were faster than each team mate, Vettel couldnt past Webber til engine modes were down and Lewis was ahead but only because he drinked up his fuel.
In all fairness, So im not a dick here, Alonso got what he deserved for being a pompous lil bastard for not coming in.
Simple disobey of orders, orders which his team mate would of obliged to and respected it.Why so much hate on Vettel in this forum?
Hmm, so far I think Lewis and Nico are pretty equal, they've both showed flashes of great speed this season. Im keen to believe Lewis was allowed to keep 3rd as he won out and came ahead out of the pits.
I think Nico could have a really good season considering he's got Lewis in the same machinery, im not going to count out Nico just yet.
Well this RB orders ought to make news til chinese gp.
Also im hearing "rubish words out of horners mouth" anyone got an update?
Also im hearing "rubish words out of horners mouth" anyone got an update?
Vettel made a silly movement quoting his own engineer. And it is not the hate on Vettel but the hate on the people in this forum who still try to defend what he did in the race. Though it was exciting to watch, what he did was wrong, and I don't see why fans even want to defend that unless your an uneducated fan who just wants to troll people for entertainment's sake. As a Lewis Hamilton fan, I did not like many of the actions Lewis did on the track, particularly in Monaco to Massa. That was plain stupid, thus only until the latter part of last year, I have regained faith in the "new" Lewis. As for Vettel, he is quick, but until he does something honorable and respectable, he will always be like Lewis in his earlier days.Why so much hate on Vettel in this forum?
James Maskell
"Remember the name! Tommy Vercetti!"
The way i see things going, this will come up again in the near future.
Off track I think Vettel is quite the nice chap, he tributed his win in Singapore to Sid which was a nice touch after all.
On track though, he is pretty ruthless, he hates being beaten, it almost seems as if he hates it more than any other driver we've seen in awhile. Enough to take matters into his own hands.
On track though, he is pretty ruthless, he hates being beaten, it almost seems as if he hates it more than any other driver we've seen in awhile. Enough to take matters into his own hands.
Webber said that he was told twice that the cars were saving tyres and that he was safe from attack, and Vettel said that he wasnt told at all? Whats going on? I'm not into conspiracies or anything, but why didnt Red Bull tell both drivers that they had to settle down and maintain position?
Yes I want to see two teammates battle each other, but over the years Webber has had to put up with so much. Being told to maintain position in Silverstone 2011 and of course the front wing incident in 2010. Not to mention how he was largely blamed for the incident in Turkey 2010 while Vettel had Horner's and Newey's arms around his shoulders on the pit wall after the incident.
Yes I want to see two teammates battle each other, but over the years Webber has had to put up with so much. Being told to maintain position in Silverstone 2011 and of course the front wing incident in 2010. Not to mention how he was largely blamed for the incident in Turkey 2010 while Vettel had Horner's and Newey's arms around his shoulders on the pit wall after the incident.
Senna would have done the same as Vettel and no one would have hate on him!
The Great Senna wouldn't need team's help to win
Senna is dead, so what he would or would not have done is irrelevant. I hate that stupid "Senna would..." argument
Red Bull's Mark Webber: "We [he and Seb] have had a lot of history, I respect Seb. It is still very raw at the moment because we had a plan before the race.... I should probably stop now.
"It's very, very, very hard for Seb to sit there when we are told to bring the car home safely. I turned the engine down and was reassured twice that we would not use the cars against each other. It's very hard for people to understand the situation, they think they know what went on but they don't.
"It puts a lot of heat on certain people. Unfortunately there is no rewind button but it will put some pressure on certain people. We have three weeks now before the next race and I will catch some waves on my board in Australia."
Im not sure what you're trying to go at, but Red Bull clearly were unimpressed by Vettels actions, telling him "This is silly", as well as "You've got some explaining to do", during the race. Vettel decided to go against the pitwall by going after Webber, theres no conspiracy in that,.
EDIT - This is where Multi-21 comes in, apparently meaning something along the lines of hold position/don't overtake.
Actually, back in the day when Senna rivaled Prost, he made quite a few controversial moves against Prost that gained him quite a few haters. He was not exactly liked for his arrogance and on-track actions. The reason it may seem like Senna is "god-like" today is because of his death. It's not like your gonna rain criticisms and hate on someone who has died are you? If you are well then, shame on you!
i wonder how much Vettel taking the fight to Webber had to do with that block Webber gave Vettel at the beginning of the race in Brazil last year when Vettel was fighting for the championship?
As for the Mercs, I am sympathetic towards Rosberg as he was clearly faster than Hamilton and deserved the podium. But considering that Hamilton was ahead not only in the race but also in the championship, I can understand why Brawn made the call that he did.
As for the Mercs, I am sympathetic towards Rosberg as he was clearly faster than Hamilton and deserved the podium. But considering that Hamilton was ahead not only in the race but also in the championship, I can understand why Brawn made the call that he did.
Imagine how much Vettel would be crying if it was the other way around
guys watch this.... and PAY attention to the last minute... very interesting.
Calum McLure
Did ye, aye?
Yeah I was thinking it was maybe along the lines of
"If I'm still pissed off in 3 weeks time, Aussie V8's here I come"
"If I'm still pissed off in 3 weeks time, Aussie V8's here I come"
Webber instead of complaining, could fight back, there's still many laps until the end of race.
The problem is that he doesn't have the skills for it and he want to win the race at lap 44, when the race was 56.
The problem is that he doesn't have the skills for it and he want to win the race at lap 44, when the race was 56.
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