World Champion! Hamilton Becomes 5-Time WDC
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I am bold ....Clearly you don't know the feeling of getting bold
it takes time to accept it
Congrats lulu
There's some truth to your assertion, absolutely, which is why I believe Ferrari must hire some better team principals. However, I think that Vettel is prone to make more mistakes than Hamilton and he doesn't seem to be able to know when to attack and when to wait. I wonder if the pressure of being the Ferrari team leader is not a bit too much to bear?
I won't disagree, Vettel is the weaker driver under pressure, and as much as I wanted him to deny Hamilton the title, without a strong team behind him, he won't get anywhere. That's where I think Alonso is the ultimate, he does not, if rarely, make mistakes under immense pressure, and I would have not bet against him to win the 2017 and 18 titles in that Ferrari.
Again, different times!
You think that Lewis, Alonso, Kimi, Magnussen, to mention just a few, cared about money at all when they started karting? They wanted to be WC and had nothing but the dream.
If any of them grew up in the 40/50/60s, when things were as they were, you don't know if they would race or not anyway. You think Senna wanted to die in that car? You think Lauda wanted? You think anyone wanted to, getting into a piece of machinery? No, they wanted the dream!
To be fair if you put a microphone in any of our cars while we were driving we'd probably do a lot worse than an odd moan. We hear radio when something worth broadcasting is said, so that means race related or drivers doing something somewhat controversial. I don't think it's fair at all to use those cherry picked moments and say he complains a lot. In the heat of the moment, of course he's going to be anything other than calm.
I really don't see this whinny Hamilton that other see.
When were Formula 1 cars ever on a level pegging? There is always one or two teams that do better than everyone else.
I found the older formula 1 cars in AC much easier to drive than the bang up to date Ferrari F1 car. That thing was like trying to send a text message while your driving. Once I got the hang of the old cars it was just a matter of driving them, little else to worry about. So I don't accept that it requires any kind of special skill set to drive them, balls of steel sure, but there's no reason why Hamilton couldn't apply modern racing techniques to those cars and win all around him in any era, Hamilton is an athlete, like all modern drivers. Those guys back then were just very talented, but they lack all the education and skill development that modern drivers have.
I wish I could remember the name of the driver who said that being a racing driver is all about being able to adapt to different cars, different driving conditions and different technologies. There's no doubt in my mind that Hamilton would have been amazing at the wheel of a Lotus 49, just like Jim Clark would have been amazing at the wheel of the 2018 Mercedes.
As long as he had the same level of education that Hamilton has had that's probably true. (although, I think racing has been broken down enough that just about anyone could be trained to do it if you get them early enough) The fact is a lot has changed, racing is professional now, it wasn't back then, people tried to the best of their abilities but they just weren't in the same league as modern drivers. I don't think you could just pluck him out of the past and give him a few months to learn a modern car, he's just too far behind someone who's been learning modern racing from the age of 12.
We're better at everything these days, that's just a fact, even things like mental conditioning wasn't available in the past.
Sooo true. Compared to other f1drivers / world champions Schumacher, although incredibly talented, really was a dirty driver, on and off track.
Schumacher can't defend himself, so I Will. Ham won't brake that record, because the youngsters will be in his neck! Max and Leclerc. Max had the best car in Mexico, easy win, Ham has the best car for years, also easy winning but this glory will end, it allways does!
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Where's all the naysayers from last year saying Hamilton only wins because he's in the superior car? Oh yea, that's right, Ferrari had the superior car this year and had a 4x champion driving it and Hamilton still won the title again.
I said last year that Hamilton is the arguably the best driver ever and sooner or later, even the naysayers will have no choice but to finally admit it true.
I said last year that Hamilton is the arguably the best driver ever and sooner or later, even the naysayers will have no choice but to finally admit it true.
that's fair enough, if Schumacher didn't drive for Ferrari in those years, he would probably have less titles as well,
I suppose to a degree, it's also a team + pilot combination, just becasue Hamilton and Mercedes worked great, it doesn't mean that Mercedes + Vettel would have worked the same, but also the other way, Hamilton could struggle in Ferrari , ... it's just that sometimes the combination is unbeatable , like it was Schumi in Ferrari and is now Hamilton in Mercedes
btw to all those that keep praising the good old days, I think that if you were to able to put old generation against new generation drivers, they would all lose and loose badly
the amount of focus , athletism, endurance , training new drivers go through is immensely on different level then those old they whey they raced for fun
yes, some of the new drivers might not be willing to take the risks, but I think they would be much faster once they get used to the cars
it's a bit like saying that new soccer players won't match the old ones, if they had to use the same shoes, etc.
the amount of focus , athletism, endurance , training new drivers go through is immensely on different level then those old they whey they raced for fun
yes, some of the new drivers might not be willing to take the risks, but I think they would be much faster once they get used to the cars
it's a bit like saying that new soccer players won't match the old ones, if they had to use the same shoes, etc.
FIVE (5) TIMES WORLD CHAMPION!
Only two other people did it.
Niki Lauda personally talked to Hamilton to convince him to Join Mercedes. At that time many thought it was a bad move since Mercedes was not even in the top three teams.
In his rookie year he was second in the championship in front of Alonso in the same team. Alonso was so pissed that he decided to denounce Maclaren, (his own team), for spying at Ferrarri. I don't believe in Karma but Alonso is carrying that Karma ever since.
Only two other people did it.
Niki Lauda personally talked to Hamilton to convince him to Join Mercedes. At that time many thought it was a bad move since Mercedes was not even in the top three teams.
In his rookie year he was second in the championship in front of Alonso in the same team. Alonso was so pissed that he decided to denounce Maclaren, (his own team), for spying at Ferrarri. I don't believe in Karma but Alonso is carrying that Karma ever since.
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Sasha Jednak
Sasa Jednak
That is exactly why “GOAT“ discussions are pointless. They all raced under different circumstances and nothing can prove what would happen if they were in different era and those rules, training, etc. All we can is compare them year by year with open mind and no bias. And for this and last year that says Lewis is the best for that period. Don‘t want to go further to past, I hope you get my point.
There are a lot of modern "conveniences" but you still have to drive the car. Just look at the launch Hamilton got at the start of this last race. Mashing buttons... whatever. He consistently pulls stuff out of his rear like that. I really can't stand Mercedes but they have THE car and the man can drive it like a bat out of hell, to the limits, and still manage to make his tires last as long as they ask of him. He may bitch and whine about things a lot but he almost never makes stupid mistakes like some others manage to do nearly every race.
Champion of what? Sure he is a great racingdriver, no doubt! But worldchamp?, Just 4 competitive cars, no F1 champ yes, world no way, just 4 cars, its to easy! Sorry.
