TT Isle of Man - The Game

[muzikant]

Like TT isn't dangerous enough on dry, they do it on rain, too ?
Really ? It should be suspended like oval racing, it's much more dangerous than oval in wet, in my opinion. Without a shred of doubt. Speeding TT with bike is just crazy man. And on the wet... I don't know... it's just insane. Hats down. Knickers too. BDMS respect dude. Jay, too.

Where is the Hallo

 

[muzikant]

Heroes off motorport

 

[Damage Inc]

Just the part of turning you're supposed to understand dude.
p.s. please be safe on the road dude.

Like Andy says, as a biker you do NOT turn the bars to corner at speed (only at VERY slow speeds..i.e. feet down). Using the Front brake mid corner is a no no because it mucks up the giroscopic/centrifugal force making the bike move upright and NO amount of turning the bars will help in that scenario (or in any scenario above 10 mph!) as the lean angle is what cornering on a bike is all about. Also as Andy says one of the (many) things a biker does to turn is to apply pressure to the bars so to turn left pressure is applied to the left bar which from you perspective is what you do to turn right, but on a bike that pressure does the opposite.

The physics of a motorbike are really weird and difficult to understand. I know the basics, but not all the terminology and it baffles me and I rode for 13 years!!

 

[Damage Inc]

This is under-rated just like RBR is, they'll iron out the handling issues and glitches eventually, let's give it time. Pius, like it has been said in above, the track itself is worth every penny AND riding a bike virtually without killing yourself is a bonus don't you think? Oh, and for those "it's too hard"; "physics are crap" or "I got a refund" players out there, you didn't think it'd be easy did you? come on, this is the IOM we're talking about, boy's with huge b######s here .....hehe

I'm a "physics are crap" chap, but I also still love the game (having a little hiatus at the mo though). Spot on about the TT itself, phenominal rendition of it in the game.

Did anyone see poor Dovi crash in France? His WTF reaction was how I am with most of my crashes in TTIOM! (not that you can get front end washouts in the game).

 

[Esox71]

Like Andy says, as a biker you do NOT turn the bars to corner at speed (only at VERY slow speeds..i.e. feet down). Using the Front brake mid corner is a no no because it mucks up the giroscopic/centrifugal force making the bike move upright and NO amount of turning the bars will help in that scenario (or in any scenario above 10 mph!) as the lean angle is what cornering on a bike is all about. Also as Andy says one of the (many) things a biker does to turn is to apply pressure to the bars so to turn left pressure is applied to the left bar which from you perspective is what you do to turn right, but on a bike that pressure does the opposite.

The physics of a motorbike are really weird and difficult to understand. I know the basics, but not all the terminology and it baffles me and I rode for 13 years!!

WoW! just Wow!
I said nothing of brakes!?
And if you think you are cornering with your bars completely straight your deluded! (at any speed)

 

[Damage Inc]

Nonsense, you need to turn, read this......
https://www.quora.com/Why-does-my-m...rnering-position-when-I-apply-the-front-brake

WoW! just Wow!
I said nothing of brakes!?
And if you think you are cornering with your bars completely straight your deluded! (at any speed)

wow just wow straight back at you, what part of the post above that YOU posted and with a link to an article about BRAKING do you not remember?....hello.... McFly?

The only delusion here is yours. Do you Ride? You do NOT turn the Bars to corner at speed F A C T. end of story, please shut up and stop being ignorant.

 

[Kenny Paton]

Gentlemen

 

[Damage Inc]

Gentlemen
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Sorry Kenny but when someone calls me deluded and forgets they brought up a subject in the first place just narks me off big time.

 

[Kenny Paton]

Sorry Kenny but when someone calls me deluded and forgets they brought up a subject in the first place just narks me off big time.

Just making sure it doesn't escalate it so just a reminder to all, it wasn't specifically directed at you.

 

[Esox71]

If you cared to read my posts I said only the part of the linked article relevant was the part about corner entry, And please stop saying "You do not turn bars at speed"
I am stating when cornering a bike the bike has its bars turned, granted maybe 1 or 2 degrees but they are NOT straight!
Ye canny change the laws of physics captain!

 

[Esox71]

Has anyone ever riding a bike with no hands?
You lean left/right like the boys are saying?
That lean turns the bars, you probably might think your turning just by leaning but your not.

just to be clear I am not personally rubbishing anyone here, or ganging up with some else to do so.

 

[Helmut Skrdla]

The interesting thing seems to me that a lot of what we can't simulate from a real bike trough our PCs is not needed to be simulated for a sidecar... so this might actually make it a "more real" experience. Plus the local multiplayer seems like a fun idea for when you have some gasoline bro's round.

 

[Charles Amyouni]

Here I am just excited that there's game finally including the sidecar. Time to mod for it.

 

[gamer19]

What a hell is that ?!?
You dare to spoil something holly like Isle of Man TT course (thread) is with that... what's that... is that... an Anime ? A Isle of Man(ga) ? Good Lord almighty.... never mind, don't answer.

 

[Andy_J]

Do handle bars on a bike turn on an axis?
WoW!...So does a wheel!

Yes, lets keep it civil. Going back to your statement quoted above. Yes they have an axis to turn but in the opposite way hence why a steering wheel cannot be used. I counter steer in real life. I do it all the time. So yes there is an axis and we do use it a little. At high speed it is barely noticeable though but the inputs are there from your arms to your body position through to weighting the pegs to make a bike turn ever so slightly. But I do and I suspect quite a lot of bikers do it too, I'm talking about counter steering which is impossible with a steering wheel hence the difference Colin. If I approach a right hand corner at any speed I enter it by pushing with my right hand. If the corner gets tighter, I don't apply the brake, I just push harder with my right hand. That's push, not pull. So I am trying to make the axis change by steering to the left in all reality. So we steer to the right in order to go left. And you know what? It feels great. Just push on that right handlebar grip and if by magic my bike gets lower and lower and before I know it, my knee is scraping the floor.
Now apply the front brake in an emergency and one of two things will happen. You will either lose the front end and it will wash out and down you go and you then slide under the wheels of that tractor or 16 wheeler or the bike will sit up very fast and guide you into the opposite lane and throw you straight into the front grill of that Mercedes van or lorry. Good init?

But despite all that, using a car sim steering wheel for bike racing game is still silly, it looks silly too.

 

[Damage Inc]

If you cared to read my posts I said only the part of the linked article relevant was the part about corner entry, And please stop saying "You do not turn bars at speed"
I am stating when cornering a bike the bike has its bars turned, granted maybe 1 or 2 degrees but they are NOT straight!
Ye canny change the laws of physics captain!

I quoted your post, I'll quote it again at no point did you say anything about only relating to corner entry:

"Nonsense, you need to turn, read this......" <-- that is what you said, pray tell where is the bit about only referring to corner entry in that sentence? Using the word deluded was also not especially nice but hey ho.

Indeed, but the movement of the front wheel axis is largly irrelevant, as a rider you are not consciously turning the bars. The bars may not be straight, but they will be a lot closer to straight than full lock, it's negligible, it's all about the angle of lean. I realise we're arguing semantics here, but when you use a wheel to control a bike in a game the wheel axis is controlling the lean angle which is not comparable with what the axis of the handlebars do, hence the disagreements! When I use a gamepad I equate the thumbstick movement to the many various pressures I applied to get lean angle, there is no one single movement a rider does to attain lean angle and indeed you have a vast array of riding styles.

 

[vee10]

Today's the day! Looking forward to seeing how these handle.

My only concern is that I hope my cd keys version gets the dlc as I never got the McGuinness DLC.

 

[Damage Inc]

Today's the day! Looking forward to seeing how these handle.

My only concern is that I hope my cd keys version gets the dlc as I never got the McGuinness DLC.

I'm certain that was for full price pre orders, the sidecars should be content for all.

 

[Kenny Paton]

But despite all that, using a car sim steering wheel for bike racing game is still silly, it looks silly too.

It would be even sillier watching me try to ride a bike for real.

 

[Andy_J]

It would be even sillier watching me try to ride a bike for real with a steering wheel.

You said it Kenny.

Did I mention I am off to the Isle of Man next week?