Trump Trump Trump....here comes the revolution!!

[Andy_J]

It's called the 2nd amendment and it protects the citizenry from tyranny.
So you absolutely need semi auto assault rifles? I see. Couldn't a pistol do and maybe a hunting rifle? Why not just an air rifle?
You know, the same tyrannical governments responsible for the genocide of over 100 million people in the last century alone.
So if their citizens had semi auto rifles like AK-47's, they could fight tyranny too? I see.
No need to address any of the rest of your silly post, it's clear you have incredible contempt for America, so F you.
Well thanks for that Captain America. What does the F stand for? Oh and I don't have contempt, I merely think you would be better under colonial rule again. Fancy it?
Since you cocks laid down your guns over the Dunblane false flag fake shooting in 1996, Britian currently has the highest violent crime rate of any country in the EU. So instead of being shot to death, you'll just get beaten to death instead, how quaint!
I see, you read the Daily Mail. That explains quite a bit. Oh and Its Great Britain. Yes we like being quaint too. Was Dunblane a False Flag fake shooting? What is a false flag fake shooting? That might be a bit insulting to the victims of that particular bit of terrible crime.
There are over a billion guns and 12 trillion rounds of ammunition in America, if gun crime were really a problem, you'd see a lot more than the occasional false flag fake shooting like you do. Not to mention, gun control doesn't work! Chicago has some of the strictest gun control in the country, over 3000 victims of gun crime last year. When you ban guns, only criminals have guns, this is basic common sense. Gun and violent crime is lowest in areas of liberal gun ownership and carry laws, this is a fact.
Like I said, you will be well equipped for the ZA when it comes, I really envy you on that one having watched The Walking Dead. I would love a SCAR-4, just for anti zombie defence of course.
Your own country is a steaming mess, how about working on that instead of mocking me and my fellow Americans over a constitutionally guaranteed right? Any other parts of the constitution a foreigner such as yourself would like to do away with? 1st amendment? 4th? Get lost, mind your own business. Unfortunately, if you haven't come to terms with your mental condition called liberalism by now in your life, there is no hope for you to wake up and smell the coffee.
You don't even know which country I live in, because it's hardly a steaming mess. But it's relatively safe as long as you go out at night armed with a pitch fork and a lantern. Oh and you deserve a fine sprinkling of British mocking due to your extreme rudeness old chap. God save the Queen. ps did you fake the moon landings and why did you kill Kennedy, he was a nice chap?

Wow........such a nice person. Your name is not Neegan by any chance? You scare me.

 

[Metalogic]

World Newspapers React With Shock, Mockery to Donald Trump's Win

"Disbelief, horror and downright mockery. If the reaction of world newspapers to Donald Trump's victory is a barometer of public opinion then America's president elect has bridges to build.

Trump's ratings across Europe and Asia are hugely negative, and many of Thursday's front pages reflected that."

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/20...eact-shock-mockery-donald-trump-s-win-n681881
e.g.

 

[mycarlooksfast]

So you absolutely need semi auto assault rifles? I see. Couldn't a pistol do and maybe a hunting rifle?
Your terminology gives away how little you actually know about firearms. Assault rifles have selective fire capability and require an NFA class III tax stamp to legally own, which is costly and a major hassle with a lot of waiting involved. The semi-automatic rifles that I can legally purchase and take home today are not assault rifles. And unless you're talking about revolvers, pistols are semi-automatic too, some with fairly large magazine capacity and the ability to reload in a couple of seconds. When a staggering majority of gun crime is committed with semi-automatic pistols, why are we even talking about rifles at all? I know exactly why: The AK and AR rifles are scary looking, so you want to ban them first...it's easier to pull off when you appeal to emotion...see Dunblane. Then you'll go for the pistols, then the rifles and shotguns, then we'll be disarmed and the 2nd amendment has incrementally been rendered obsolete. The true tyranny can begin as violent crime skyrockets. The gun grabber agenda is so obvious to those of us on the right side of history.

So if their citizens had semi auto rifles like AK-47's, they could fight tyranny too? I see.
A bit hard to fight back if you have no means to do so, the choice of weapon is irrelevant. Did you sleep through history class?

Was Dunblane a False Flag fake shooting? What is a false flag fake shooting? That might be a bit insulting to the victims of that particular bit of terrible crime.
Spare me, Dunblane and Sandy hook were both faked events aimed at disarming the populace. There were no victims because it didn't happen the way they said. The only difference between the two events is America wasn't fooled by the narrative.

Sorry you feel I'm being so mean to you when discussing the facts. Facts are like kryptonite to liberals, easier to play victim.

 

[Ole Marius Myrvold]

Don't be afraid . Globalisation would be your worst enemy and with Brexit and Trumpet this has been numbed down. Globalisation is only good for imperiums and multinationals. Belgian liberal politicians are now depressed because they see that treaty with America going up in smoke . Karel Degucht, who is in the European government , sold his shares of a bank worth €800.000 the day before the shares crashed and left thousands of "normal investors" without any money. And now he is sad because Trump won and all of that money disappear with it. That is a good thing. because that money would only go to the multinationals and top politicians . Not to the people, that will never happen but now I am glad "they " miss out on money too .
Trumps message to keep America and its money preserved for the hard working American, has proven golden value for him.

That is honestly the least of my worries.

 

[JeffL]

As much as I hate globalization and corporate trade deals if anybody thinks Trump is able to start full on trade wars without crashing the American Economy and probably the global economy then they don't understand global finance markets. Most of the traded money is based on speculation of trade.

He lied, even Bernie has said that it would have to be incremental VAT tax implementation, just like other industrial nations. With very little detail in any of his policy proposals nobody knows what he will do.

Just like all that money that Brits said they were gonna get money pumped back into their NHS, that "oh sorry, that really isn't possible" post Brexit realization will come to the Americans that bought into Trumps lies.

It's gonna take some really smart people to fix this system without making all of us suffer in the interim.

 

[Andy_J]

our terminology gives away how little you actually know about firearms.
Sorry you feel I'm being so mean to you when discussing the facts. Facts are like kryptonite to liberals, easier to play victim.

Trust me Captain America. I don''t feel you are being mean to me (and wouldn't be bothered if you were). And I don't advocate banning guns. And I do know the difference between the various versions of Military grade assault weapons and customer weapons and revolvers and semi auto pistols. My 23 years in the military (serving my country and not just taking from it), 2 gulf wars and a Bosnia conflict saw to that. But I will admit to not knowing too much about the USA's firearm regulations. Would you like to compare service history between us? And we can discuss how much each of us knows in reference to firearms though, I'd be happy to do that.

I ain't no liberal either. But one thing I don't do is suffer fools and the biggest fools are those that can't think for themselves. Sorry if you feel I'm mocking you but real facts are like Kryptonite to the selfish and the ignorant.

PS, get some facts next time regarding the reasons of the fatal shootings at Dunblane or Sandy Hook instead of just reeling off pro gun lobby rhetoric. Facts old chap.

 

[JeffL]

The majority of Americans don't want to ban guns,it's just rightwing rhetoric, a 90% majority do want extensive background checks. I am a gun owner. The problem is fanatics, there are 300 million guns in our country and 3% own 150 million of them.

 

[johnnymat]

Was Dunblane a False Flag fake shooting? What is a false flag fake shooting? That might be a bit insulting to the victims of that particular bit of terrible crime.
Spare me, Dunblane and Sandy hook were both faked events aimed at disarming the populace. There were no victims because it didn't happen the way they said. The only difference between the two events is America wasn't fooled by the narrative.

Hey there, where did you get your so-called facts about Sandy Hook? What the hell is a false flag fake shooting? Sandy Hook was done by a whacko who was able to obtain firearms that he had no business possessing. Sandy Hook went down the way the press portrayed it.

By the way, I'm a supporter of 2nd. Amendment rights.

 

[JeffL]

I ignored him but if he is quoting "Sandyhook is false flag" then he is an Alex Jones fan who is a rightwing wackjob that thinks that the global elites are shapeshifting reptiles and Dick Cheney was a subterranean baby eater. Not joking his webpage is the incubator for most of really, really far out stuff spewed by the newly involved Trump supporter.

 

[Andy_J]

I ignored him but if he is quoting "Sandyhook is false flag" then he is an Alex Jones fan who is a rightwing wackjob that thinks that the global elites are shapeshifting reptiles and Dick Cheney was a subterranean baby eater. Not joking his webpage is the incubator for most of really, really far out stuff spewed by the newly involved Trump supporter.

Jeff you should un-ignore him. These people need educating. Yes I know all about Alex Jones. I watch TYT who enjoy poking fun at that nutjob on a regular basis.

 

[JeffL]

I would like to unignore but we really are in crisis here in the US. This is not just another American clown show . There is a real divide here between the cities and rural America. The cities hold the power and supply most of the tax base for the country. Yet the vast open spaces have an edge in the electoral college. The centralized power in the cities and the youth are not going to accept this. The protests are just beginning and will grow. There is a genuine fear being exhibited by the minorities, women and the LGBTQ community and it is warranted. So it just gets my ire up and am trying to keep a level head as our republic tries to figure out what it is. Trump has spent the last 18 months being extremely divisive and I don't know if that genie can be put back in the bottle. Remember 300 million guns.

 

[fortyfivekev]

He lied, even Bernie has said that it would have to be incremental VAT tax implementation, just like other industrial nations. With very little detail in any of his policy proposals nobody knows what he will do.

Just like all that money that Brits said they were gonna get money pumped back into their NHS, that "oh sorry, that really isn't possible" post Brexit realization will come to the Americans that bought into Trumps lies.

The UK media likes to pretend that the people who voted for Brexit were conned as far as the £350m per week thing goes but everyone knew that was BS as was most of the remain side propaganda. Saving money is not the reason people here voted to leave the EU.

 

[JeffL]

I agree with you @fortyfivekev but it is just one piece of propaganda in a very, very complex issue. I don't blame the people for Brexit and I don't blame the Trump voters for Trumpism. The ruling class has let everyone down and by not dealing with the issues and by not educating the masses and leaving them powerless the people will generally resort to blame (the other) and throwing a rhetorical bomb with the only weapon they have, a vote. Trumpism and Brexit are not the answer and neither was the status quo. Dialogue and communication must begin and it must start with our leaders.

 

[JeffL]

In the laboratory that is the great experiment of Democracy we have an example of which way this can turn. The American example was as the 1920's turned to 1930's and the great depression fell upon us. The American government with pressure from the socialists, the wobblies, the suffragists and the communists created the New Deal that implemented social programs and work programs that helped pull us out of a crisis and as Roosevelt said: "My greatest accomplishment was saving capitalism" .
On the other hand at the same time, Germany in the midst of the Wiemar republic, turned to a demagogue to revive it's nation. We all know how that turned out. This is an existential crisis and I hope we have learned from history.

 

[Ricoow]

I voted Trump, simply because I like winning quizzes

 

[JeffL]

I voted Trump, simply because I like winning quizzes

That's refereed to as "Whistling past the graveyard"

 

[Metalogic]

The UK media likes to pretend that the people who voted for Brexit were conned as far as the £350m per week thing goes but everyone knew that was BS as was most of the remain side propaganda. Saving money is not the reason people here voted to leave the EU.

No, it was immigration, especially muslim immigration (which leaving the EU will do very little about, how many Poles are muslim?), fears about which were stoked by the right-wing press, such as the disgusting Daily Mail. Still lies.

In this case, though, the worst leader we could've got would have been Boris Johnson, though we were thankfully spared that humiliation, who in comparison to Trump would've have seemed like a model Great Statesman.

 

[fortyfivekev]

If Nigel Farage was Prime Minister then Brexit would be much more comparable to Trump's victory but thankfully that's not the case, he couldn't even get elected as an MP.

Muslim immigration was not a factor in the SW where I am nor in Wales which also voted out. Eastern European immigration certainly was a factor though just because they are depressing wages and working conditions in parts of the country where most jobs are already at or near minimum wage. London media like to portray that as racism but like a lot of stuff in the news these days that is also BS.

 

[jimortality]

Muslim immigration may not have been the main reason for people voting to leave but If Turkey were allowed to enter the EU in the next 20 years then that's a concern for me, Schengen or no Schengen it would have put more strain on our borders. I also voted out for other reasons.

 

[JeffL]

If Nigel Farage was Prime Minister then Brexit would be much more comparable to Trump's victory but thankfully that's not the case, he couldn't even get elected as an MP.

America would have elected a sock puppet, it wasn't Trump they liked it was the monkey wrench to the system. Just like Brexit they finally had a vote on something that would explode the continuity of helplessness that existed. Boom.