Misc True to Life AI 2013 Season 1.4

ParkYongLee · Apr 25, 2013

snthennumbers had no edited "ai_vehicle_track.xml" files himself, before he implemented the "competitive break mod"
So you can get the new v4 version and replace/overwrite the existing files as they only overwrite the old competitive mod files.

REGiSTERED · Apr 25, 2013

Hi snthenumbers and first thanks for this beautifull mod.... I have one problem at Japan GP at 3rd Curve.. Have look at this video and it explain all.... Can you fix this problem? Because in every race happend this.... Excusme for my bad english and thanks for your work

Video

Benutzername · Apr 25, 2013

Melphiz said:
Ha, I've disabled DRS, it was so easy. You just have to set all allowed coords to "0" so all DRS zones are at absolute "0"

Can you please tell me, where this value is? In thedb? And if yes, where?
It would be extremely useful for the 2007 mod!

Thanks alot!

ParkYongLee · Apr 25, 2013

Benutzername said:
Can you please tell me, where this value is? In thedb? And if yes, where?
It would be extremely useful for the 2007 mod!

Thanks alot!

It's not in the database, it's in the tracks\circuits\<track>\route_0\triggers_pit.xml
For melbourne (I'm currently not at home), you've to search for

Code:

- <trigger type="Vehicle2DSector">
  <base_params name="rear_wing_timing" id="42" />
- <params playerOnly="False" numberOfPoints="4">
  <point_2d x="188.8694" y="740.1249" />
  <point_2d x="-338.4415" y="230.972" />
  <point_2d x="-352.3596" y="244.8452" />
  <point_2d x="175.2849" y="753.8201" />
  </params>
  </trigger>
- <trigger type="Vehicle2DSector">
  <base_params name="rearwingtiming" id="43" />
- <params playerOnly="False" numberOfPoints="4">
  <point_2d x="538.009" y="849.3725" />
  <point_2d x="532.1529" y="851.5157" />
  <point_2d x="547.968" y="889.0045" />
  <point_2d x="553.8691" y="886.8459" />
  </params>

and change all coordinates to "0" at least that's how I did it

I haven't modified all tracks yet as I have the performance as my main focus currently.

Ah, yes, there's a

Code:

<base_params name="rear_wing_timing" id="48" />
- <params playerOnly="False" numberOfPoints="12">

in melbourne e.g. as well, haven't touched it yet as I test in races only for now, it could be that points are for training-DRS but I'm not sure

snthennumbers · Apr 25, 2013

REGiSTERED said:
Hi snthenumbers and first thanks for this beautifull mod.... I have one problem at Japan GP at 3rd Curve.. Have look at this video and it explain all.... Can you fix this problem? Because in every race happend this.... Excusme for my bad english and thanks for your work

Video

Looking into it mate, but my initial hunch is that there's files from another mod causing this issue. I've asked hill to take a look as well, but I think you might have some leftover files from another mod which may be causing this.

I'm stuck at work right now so unfortunately I can't do a race to test this, but I'll let you know what hill and I find asap

manos426f · Apr 25, 2013

snthennumbers, can you please upload the last version of your mod that included the database.bin file for those of us who still use Mr. Pibb's 2013 mod?

I believe it was v1.8, right?

sunnymtx · Apr 25, 2013

snthennumbers, this MOD is really awesome. Feels like a completely new 2013 game!
The way u figured out all those details about the AI system and sharing those as well, making it some kind of open source, is exemplary! Thank you and your collegues very much for bringing together 4 very important MODs (v1teks 2013, Safety Car and Comp.Braking)!!

sunnymtx · Apr 25, 2013

snthennumbers said:
Looking into it mate, but my initial hunch is that there's files from another mod causing this issue. I've asked hill to take a look as well, but I think you might have some leftover files from another mod which may be causing this.

I'm stuck at work right now so unfortunately I can't do a race to test this, but I'll let you know what hill and I find asap

I raced with the assumed same settings REGiSTERED used in Suzuka and had no red flag in the first few laps. Must be trouble with different AI-MODs.

snthennumbers · Apr 25, 2013

manos426f said:
snthennumbers, can you please upload the last version of your mod that included the database.bin file for those of us who still use Mr. Pibb's 2013 mod?

I believe it was v1.8, right?

Here you go:
http://www.mediafire.com/?w3z4q8y3o39c39x

snthennumbers · Apr 25, 2013

sunnymtx said:
I raced with the assumed same settings REGiSTERED used in Suzuka and had no red flag in the first few laps. Must be trouble with different AI-MODs.

Yeah that's what I thought - there's something else going on with REGiSTERED's files...

snthennumbers · Apr 25, 2013

sunnymtx said:
snthennumbers, this MOD is really awesome. Feels like a completely new 2013 game!
The way u figured out all those details about the AI system and sharing those as well, making it some kind of open source, is exemplary! Thank you and your collegues very much for bringing together 4 very important MODs (v1teks 2013, Safety Car and Comp.Braking)!!

Awesome man, really glad you're enjoying it

To everyone:
If you can find a moment to leave a review, it's greatly appreciated!
This can be done at the top of the page on the "Reviews" tab
I know it's a little silly, but it helps other people looking for good mods to easily see which mods people like from the Downloads section
EDIT: You have to click on the stars over on the right hand side to give a review
Thanks in advance!!

ParkYongLee · Apr 25, 2013

We can? No, I can't. You can see all reviews there but I don't see any button to write a review

P.S.: manos426f if you take a look at version history you can still download the latest versions of the mod

sunnymtx · Apr 25, 2013

Melphiz said:
We can? No, I can't. You can see all reviews there but I don't see any button to write a review

That's what I thought as well. But I found the possibilty: you'll have to click on the star rating on the right part of the forum page (next to the reviews)

Benutzername · Apr 25, 2013

Melphiz said:
It's not in the database, it's in the tracks\circuits\<track>\route_0\triggers_pit.xml
For melbourne (I'm currently not at home), you've to search for

Code:

- <trigger type="Vehicle2DSector"> <base_params name="rear_wing_timing" id="42" /> - <params playerOnly="False" numberOfPoints="4"> <point_2d x="188.8694" y="740.1249" /> <point_2d x="-338.4415" y="230.972" /> <point_2d x="-352.3596" y="244.8452" /> <point_2d x="175.2849" y="753.8201" /> </params> </trigger> - <trigger type="Vehicle2DSector"> <base_params name="rearwingtiming" id="43" /> - <params playerOnly="False" numberOfPoints="4"> <point_2d x="538.009" y="849.3725" /> <point_2d x="532.1529" y="851.5157" /> <point_2d x="547.968" y="889.0045" /> <point_2d x="553.8691" y="886.8459" /> </params>

and change all coordinates to "0" at least that's how I did it
I haven't modified all tracks yet as I have the performance as my main focus currently.

Ah, yes, there's a

Code:

<base_params name="rear_wing_timing" id="48" /> - <params playerOnly="False" numberOfPoints="12">

in melbourne e.g. as well, haven't touched it yet as I test in races only for now, it could be that points are for training-DRS but I'm not sure

Thanks alot!

I hope i got it working!
Would be fanatstic, just pure racing!

naim · Apr 25, 2013

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Benutzername said:
Thanks alot!

I hope i got it working!
Would be fanatstic, just pure racing!

Do you think I can edit it for drs in practice to be only in the zones like in the race?? Please thanks

naim · Apr 25, 2013

Melphiz said:
It's not in the database, it's in the tracks\circuits\<track>\route_0\triggers_pit.xml
For melbourne (I'm currently not at home), you've to search for

Code:

- <trigger type="Vehicle2DSector"> <base_params name="rear_wing_timing" id="42" /> - <params playerOnly="False" numberOfPoints="4"> Do you think I can edit the drs to work only in the zones like in the race and how? Thanks <point_2d x="188.8694" y="740.1249" /> <point_2d x="-338.4415" y="230.972" /> <point_2d x="-352.3596" y="244.8452" /> <point_2d x="175.2849" y="753.8201" /> </params> </trigger> - <trigger type="Vehicle2DSector"> <base_params name="rearwingtiming" id="43" /> - <params playerOnly="False" numberOfPoints="4"> <point_2d x="538.009" y="849.3725" /> <point_2d x="532.1529" y="851.5157" /> <point_2d x="547.968" y="889.0045" /> <point_2d x="553.8691" y="886.8459" /> </params>

and change all coordinates to "0" at least that's how I did it
I haven't modified all tracks yet as I have the performance as my main focus currently.

Ah, yes, there's a

Code:

<base_params name="rear_wing_timing" id="48" /> - <params playerOnly="False" numberOfPoints="12">

in melbourne e.g. as well, haven't touched it yet as I test in races only for now, it could be that points are for training-DRS but I'm not sure

Saverio Ceci · Apr 25, 2013

Finally I managed to write a review

just one more question, I saw that it the IA mod coming from vitek's mod , the Demy's one, there is just one file that there isn't inside your mod.

car_materials

What does this file affect? Do I need to take it from Demy's mod in order to correctly play with the 2013 mod?

Thanks!

snthennumbers · Apr 25, 2013

This is a pretty large task that I've looked into myself.
If you check the triggers_pit.xml files for Spa and Monaco, down at the bottom, you'll see "rear_wing_forbid" sections. These disable DRS in Eau Rouge at Spa and the tunnel at Monaco.

So the concept then, would be to map the rest of the track into those sections, except for the areas where you want DRS to be allowed.
However, the larger task, is to implement the 2 DRS zones for each track - I'm not sure how the coding would work for that...

snthennumbers · Apr 25, 2013

Saverio Ceci said:
Finally I managed to write a review

just one more question, I saw that it the IA mod coming from vitek's mod , the Demy's one, there is just one file that there isn't inside your mod.

car_materials

What does this file affect? Do I need to take it from Demy's mod in order to correctly play with the 2013 mod?

Thanks!

That file, according to Demy van Zoggel, increases the strength of the front wing, and lowers the strength of other car parts. Though after I checked what he changed in that file and followed his logic, it appeared (at least to me) that he actually lowered the strength of the front wing. I could be wrong...

You can use that file if you want, but the differences in it are pretty small, so there's nothing drastic that you're missing out on by not using it.

manos426f · Apr 25, 2013

snthennumbers said:
Here you go:
http://www.mediafire.com/?w3z4q8y3o39c39x

Melphiz said:
P.S.: manos426f if you take a look at version history you can still download the latest versions of the mod

Thanks dudes!

Another question to snthennumbers: The newer versions of your AI mod, which will include Competitive Braking Mod v4.0, will be only for v1tek's 2013 mod? (I mean concerning the use of the database.bin file)