New variation of Thanos4U controller with RJ45 connectors and adapter is now available. See the video for more details:
Authorised Vendor Thanos AMC-AASD15A 6axis Servo Motion Controller
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The manual and latest firmware update of the Thanos4U controllers are available on github:
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GitHub - tronicgr/Thanos4U-firmware: Firmware and utilities regarding the Thanos4U controller
Firmware and utilities regarding the Thanos4U controller - tronicgr/Thanos4U-firmware
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The STL files for the Thanos4U RJ45 variation are online now:
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Thanos4U RJ45 variation enclosure by TronicGr
Thanos4U RJ45 variation enclosure STL filesIncludes the enclosure for the RJ45 to DB25 adapters.More info and how to buy this motion controller:https://www.thanos-motion.com/products/thanos-4-u/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1nvHK6FVP4
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Couple of questions (Sorry if they have already been answered)
1. I received my AMC controller about three weeks ago, all is well, but the spike filter parameters are not the same as in the manual linked. I have "hard" "Semi-hard" " molasses" etc. for what I assume are presets? Nevermind... I dug deeper in the manual and it seems you do talk about this. See below comment
Any more or new documentation on the spike filters? I am getting WAAAAAY to much motion when traveling "off road" in my GT3
2. I have seen mentioned in prior posts about PC software that will allow for remote parameter changes within the AMC? I cannot find links for this software (If it is available)?
3. Is there a thread or post of some good starting points for setting up the Spike Filter that allows communicative motion but reduces crash or off road spikes?
As always thanks for your help!
Brett Horton
1. I received my AMC controller about three weeks ago, all is well, but the spike filter parameters are not the same as in the manual linked. I have "hard" "Semi-hard" " molasses" etc. for what I assume are presets? Nevermind... I dug deeper in the manual and it seems you do talk about this. See below comment
Any more or new documentation on the spike filters? I am getting WAAAAAY to much motion when traveling "off road" in my GT3
2. I have seen mentioned in prior posts about PC software that will allow for remote parameter changes within the AMC? I cannot find links for this software (If it is available)?
3. Is there a thread or post of some good starting points for setting up the Spike Filter that allows communicative motion but reduces crash or off road spikes?
As always thanks for your help!
Brett Horton
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Couple of questions (Sorry if they have already been answered)
1. I received my AMC controller about three weeks ago, all is well, but the spike filter parameters are not the same as in the manual linked. I have "hard" "Semi-hard" " molasses" etc. for what I assume are presets? Nevermind... I dug deeper in the manual and it seems you do talk about this. See below comment
Any more or new documentation on the spike filters? I am getting WAAAAAY to much motion when traveling "off road" in my GT3
2. I have seen mentioned in prior posts about PC software that will allow for remote parameter changes within the AMC? I cannot find links for this software (If it is available)?
3. Is there a thread or post of some good starting points for setting up the Spike Filter that allows communicative motion but reduces crash or off road spikes?
As always thanks for your help!
Brett Horton
Hi Brett,
1. If you set correctly the spike filter and the motion profile, you may not need to adjust the Pulse Filter, and just leave it unfiltered for max performance and no latency. Read more on #3 below...
2. The AMC config tool that allows a remotely a few parameters, is a bit outdated and might not work well with the latest v2.20 firmware. I'm updating both AMC firmware and AMC config tool these days, should be released sometime next week.
3. You should check the guide on SRS that has example settings for the spike filter and what they should be set to in SRS etc:
https://www.simracingstudio.com/forum/motion-profiles-actuator/actuator-setup-links
Thanks
Thanos
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Example of using SRS and Simtools simultaneously (SRS for SFX100 actuators and Simtools for Seatmover with Pololu jrk DC motors):
https://www.xsimulator.net/communit...k-12v12-project-sfx90-4dof.16656/#post-226014
https://www.xsimulator.net/communit...k-12v12-project-sfx90-4dof.16656/#post-226014
As requested before, I made a short video showing the power consumption of the AASD-15A servo system on a single actuator.
Standby, motion by test slider in SRS with speed limit and full speed unlimited.
Standby, motion by test slider in SRS with speed limit and full speed unlimited.
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Have a look on another video of the amazing Project Coops Stewart type 6DOF racing rig:
how did you mount everything in the power box when adding the digital display?
I also have it available on my website fully assembled:
Thanos Power Box- Thanos Motion Electronics LLC
Get your latest version of Thanos controller now ! Official Thanos Motion Electronics web store. Local stocks and fast deliveries.
ignore my question, followed you link. Thank you sir.
I also have it available on my website fully assembled:
Thanos Power Box- Thanos Motion Electronics LLC
Get your latest version of Thanos controller now ! Official Thanos Motion Electronics web store. Local stocks and fast deliveries.www.thanos-motion.com
Soon to be released...
New test app for Thanos controllers is now available. Source and instructions how to run it are available on Github: https://github.com/tronicgr/AMC-AAS...ster/Thanos-utility/Thanos-motion-test-simple
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New Firmware release for AMC-AASD15A
- Version 2.25 fix0
The firmware locations have changed with each different folders for each chip version (1280 or 2560), along the firmware update utility with presets for each chip.
https://github.com/tronicgr/AMC-AASD15A-Firmware/tree/master/Latest_firmware
- Version 2.25 fix0
- Added state machine for the LCD refresh to be performed only when needed.
- Will display the state of the servos STANDBY or PARK immediately.
- Improved the automated motion when not connected to the motion software.
- Fixed a bug where a timer failed to restore affecting the colors of the LCD during online motion.
The firmware locations have changed with each different folders for each chip version (1280 or 2560), along the firmware update utility with presets for each chip.
https://github.com/tronicgr/AMC-AASD15A-Firmware/tree/master/Latest_firmware
Another fantastic update. Keep up the amazing work brother!
New configuration tool for Thanos4U controllers is now available:
https://github.com/tronicgr/Thanos4U-firmware/tree/main/Utilities/Thanos4U_config_tool
https://github.com/tronicgr/Thanos4U-firmware/tree/main/Utilities/Thanos4U_config_tool
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Hardware Spike Filter and why you need it!
Many users had this issue, where when they beam in the game on the track, if the vehicle is placed on inclination (roll or pitch), they get a violent jolt to that position instead of smoothly positioned. Some games even have random motion data while in menus and users have to power off their motion systems while navigating those. Not to mention the million unpredictable ways to crash in a race, from a head on crash to a sustained rollover off a cliff...
The servos are not forgiving regarding positioning themselves to where the motion tell them to. They will go to 300% peak torque and full throttle speeds if they are asked to. I had to add the hardware spike filter detection on the AMC controllers to avoid having customers with damaged rigs, or personal injuries. This hardware filter works by monitoring all incoming data, calculating the max allowable range of unrestricted motion, so it will allow low amplitude vibration and fast movements, but block high amplitude spikes in the motion data that will result on fast long strokes or very high amplitude vibration (that can be unpleasant). When activated, the spike filter sets a constant speed limit cap to the motors ability to move, using artificial control, so they follow slowly following the real-time motion data, waiting for the chance when all actuators are within safe limits, to switch over the motion to the real time data from the motion software.
This works great against all type of crashes on racing games, allowing fast recovery of the motion if the crash was minor and the driver wants to resume the race. But also useful for flight sims. See this Stewart 6DOF during a crash, where he was using FlyPT without the hardware spike filter enabled. It literally shook the whole house!!! Thank god for these bungee cords that held it in place!
Many users had this issue, where when they beam in the game on the track, if the vehicle is placed on inclination (roll or pitch), they get a violent jolt to that position instead of smoothly positioned. Some games even have random motion data while in menus and users have to power off their motion systems while navigating those. Not to mention the million unpredictable ways to crash in a race, from a head on crash to a sustained rollover off a cliff...
The servos are not forgiving regarding positioning themselves to where the motion tell them to. They will go to 300% peak torque and full throttle speeds if they are asked to. I had to add the hardware spike filter detection on the AMC controllers to avoid having customers with damaged rigs, or personal injuries. This hardware filter works by monitoring all incoming data, calculating the max allowable range of unrestricted motion, so it will allow low amplitude vibration and fast movements, but block high amplitude spikes in the motion data that will result on fast long strokes or very high amplitude vibration (that can be unpleasant). When activated, the spike filter sets a constant speed limit cap to the motors ability to move, using artificial control, so they follow slowly following the real-time motion data, waiting for the chance when all actuators are within safe limits, to switch over the motion to the real time data from the motion software.
This works great against all type of crashes on racing games, allowing fast recovery of the motion if the crash was minor and the driver wants to resume the race. But also useful for flight sims. See this Stewart 6DOF during a crash, where he was using FlyPT without the hardware spike filter enabled. It literally shook the whole house!!! Thank god for these bungee cords that held it in place!
