Thats exactly what i keep asking myself,
HOW you guys do that ?? Try all the different driving style that i adapt from playing F1 2011 / Dirt series / Shift 2 / GRID and also throttle and brake exactly like some of the video here but the result is just absolutely rubbish
I think its the different between many years vs 2 months sim racer
first like william said... you can't realy use what you are in that games used to be fast... in such games the cars or physics or whatever are always not so understeery and if you drift in them it won't cost much time.. in a sim.. cars are often understeery at least when going too fast into a turn.. and drifting costs time...
in that arcade or simcade titles it's often the fastest way to wether brake or throttle... in a sim you have quite often turns where you just let the car roll through (sometimes with just a little bit of throttle to keep it stable)
for example the hairpins... brake into it then let it roll a little bit and then get on the throttle again...
without throttle the car rotates much better... sometimes even too much (called liftoff oversteer)... if you realize it rotates too much "drag it back" a bit with a little amount of throttle...(not 100% throttle then you will spin or at least drift.. just a bit to get out of the oversteer)... that alone won't maybe won't make you faster... because going on and off and on the throttle and so will cost you corner exit speed... but you will become a feeling how you can turn the car with the throttle (and brakes) instead with the steering wheel...
the elise is quite liftoff happy I would say... I mean.. under braking it starts to understeer and with throttle it also understeers... but if you let it roll.. it becomes quite rotate friendly even a bit oversteery... so it is importend to learn how you balance and time your pedal inputs to make the car what you want it to do...
like braking into turn to use the most time of the speed..and also maybe even more importend to let the weight transfer to the front so the front becomes more grip and the back less... then go off the brake and if you are not on the throttle at that time you will see how much it rotates more at that moment... it's like swinging the back around a bit... then on the throttle to get a good corner exit speed...
the closer all that comes together the faster you can get around... and the faster you go the more detailed become the differences...
if I am right I read somewhere that you are already in the 1.25s that isn't sooooo slow... it's not fast no... but I would say with the 1.25s the detail work starts... it's still quite rough because the room of improvement is still quite big... but it starts to go into the details... because with a totally crappy drive you also wouldn't get into the 1.25s
maybe it's also just the car and track that just isn't suiting you...ofcourse a realy good racecar (or simcar driver) should be quite fast in everything you give him...
and yes some people just have talent for it... so that they are already fast after a few laps or weeks..
like I said I am driving sims then 20 years... but I still can't go faster then 1.23.5s time
thats the thing with simracing.. the raw goal is ofcourse to be the fastest... and the other goal which is implemented in that is to always improve yourself... but there will be always someone who is faster (unless you are called greger huttu lol)
thats in simracing even more then in real racing because simracing can be afforded by a lot more people then real racing...
which then resulting the main goal to become to improve yourself
