Title says it all. It's available now, so for those with much more skill than me, how does it fare? Especially compared to Dirt Rally?
DiRT 4 So, first impressions? Where does it stand versus DR?
- Thread starter Helmut Skrdla
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The game feels a lot better since the first patch ,
no idea what they did but i'm starting to like it .
Could not resist buying the game for second time and giving it another go .
no idea what they did but i'm starting to like it .
Could not resist buying the game for second time and giving it another go .
Yes, downgrade. Gearbox failures isn't everything. Please compare even breaking sound(squeal less), engine sounds is a less raw as well. If you can't hear difference then...
Matthew Allington
Wham!ming into Spanish rocks
I agree!
DiRT Rally has many imperfections, but at its core is an engaging & addicting driving package. DiRT 4 flips this experience on its head - It's improved on its immediate predecessor in so many aspects in Rallycross and off the stage, but I really do not like the core driving experience, more realistic or not, on the rally stages
After some deliberation, I decided to refund it and wait until I can get it in the bargain bin. Speaking of bargain bins, I also picked up RBR yesterday and wow. I honestly found the game of over 10 years old to be the more engaging experience. Add some NGP physics and I found it even better, too - definitely will be playing a lot of this and more of DiRT Rally in the future
Wouldn't trust the Steam reviews. The metacritic user ones are good.
People just want the artificial difficulty of DR back, for the same reason they liked RBR. Once they get used to it, the ratings will go up. D4 is a living example of how a lot of simracers just want a lot of bullcrap rather than realism.
Yeah, I'll give you that, the rear is very weird at the moment, but I think it's less extreme than the obscenely, unrealistically oversteery nature of DR due to the weight being much better defined than it ever was in DR. Defo needs to be patched a bit though.
I think that's partially on your end. I'm having a very easy time with that now, and if anything it's making me enjoy FWDs far more than I ever did in DR since the cars are doing what I want them and expect them to do now.
MoerasGrizzly
Premium
I have lift off oversteer at 120 KM/H (which is about... 80 MPH?) in the Peugoet 205 (The H2 FWD). What car are you driving?
I'm driving the Peugeot 205 literally right now. (Well, posting on my phone, whilst the game is loading). 205 Historic FWD. The car is absolutely planted. You need do drive completely recklessly to get it out of control. And I'm winning stages on the hardest difficulty by 30 seconds (which is somewhat disappointing).
Unless you try and get the rear out, it won't happen. Driven in Australia, currently in Spain. Drives like it has a huge diffuser.
Unless you try and get the rear out, it won't happen. Driven in Australia, currently in Spain. Drives like it has a huge diffuser.
Yeah sorry, Tough. But I shouldn't be winning by 30 seconds. Was about 10 seconds per stage in Australia, 30 in Spain.
Spain is the best example of the physics problems. It has the worst possible corners for FWD cars. Long, downhill, off camber trail braking. That's a fwd nightmare. But not in this game, the car is glued. Adrian Newey should have a look at the aero on my 205. He might learn something.
Spain is the best example of the physics problems. It has the worst possible corners for FWD cars. Long, downhill, off camber trail braking. That's a fwd nightmare. But not in this game, the car is glued. Adrian Newey should have a look at the aero on my 205. He might learn something.
Yep, Spain and especially Michigan are broken. Australia is far harder, but mostly inconsistent, with some stages being nigh impossible even on Tough right now - at least a few hours ago, at Sawtell Wood - Ascent, only one player in the ENTIRE WORLD had managed to beat the times that my Tough AI set in group A cars. Even Joona Pansku was 5th, 2 seconds slower than my best AI, and I was 13th, 6 seconds down. It's a tad bit ridiculous. I think they're worse in FWD cars, but not by much.
In particular, technical stages with lots of 3s are bad for them, while fast Finland-like sections are incredibly good for them, with them taking even mid-straight 5&6 combinations completely flat as if they don't exist.
Not in my experience, nor that of a good friend of mine who was basically alien tier in DR. I can lose it and do what I want with it just fine - in fact, Spain feels like one of the best sections in the game for me so far, barring some bullshit corners.
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I can't agree. Unless you set the car up to be harder to drive then that isn't what it drives like, and if you have to set it up to be realistic then it isn't realistic. There is a huge gulf between this and every other game we consider a simulation. Being an alien in DR doesn't really mean much since this drives absolutely nothing like DR. If we want to go down that route, then fine - I qualified for the iRacing World Championship, and I'm saying this is not realistic. Anyone who has driven a FWD hatchback on a wet road even at normal road speeds could tell you this isn't how cars drive.
If this game is realistic then it's time to stop being impressed with Sebastian Loeb and Colin McRae because even I could be a wrc champion. There is very little challenge in keeping the car on the racing surface in this game. I should take my Fiesta rallying if this game is realistic.
On another note, land rush is bloody terrible. Slow AI and a spotter who doesn't bother spotting. Doesn't tell you when there's a car alongside about half the time, and when he does he's far too late.
If this game is realistic then it's time to stop being impressed with Sebastian Loeb and Colin McRae because even I could be a wrc champion. There is very little challenge in keeping the car on the racing surface in this game. I should take my Fiesta rallying if this game is realistic.
On another note, land rush is bloody terrible. Slow AI and a spotter who doesn't bother spotting. Doesn't tell you when there's a car alongside about half the time, and when he does he's far too late.
Default setup actually.
Given your struggles in specific sections, I'm not very convinced by your arguments here, honestly. I'd give it a bit more time, especially if you're overly used to DR or RBR like a lot of people who are currently struggling with the game.
The calls in general could be a lot better in D4. Big downgrade from DR.
