PC2 Project Cars 2 Leagues (merged)

[Rob]

I know we are all excited for this release. What I don't know is how many people intend to a) play it on the xbox one and b) would like to join some sort of a formal league here at Race Department.

There are so many possibilities, I've had to calm myself down from getting lost in them. However, my main passion, IndyCar, will probably not be able to be run until the DLC with the ovals comes to the Xbox One.

That said, what sort of series would you like to see? Personally, ones that come to mind are Tudor United Sports Car Series, WEC, British Touring Car, and DTM. One of these could fill the gap for me until IndyCar is possible, but others may have better ideas.

Please indicate below if you are interested and what sort of times you are available and which series' you prefer. We could follow the actual schedule of many a series, due to the timing of the release. Personally, if they get the ovals out before IndyCar starts, I'll probably turn my focus there, but nothing would prevent running another alongside.

The anticipation is killing me!

 

[Frank Finch]

I'm thinking we should put out a search party for the race thread. It appears to have gone missing.

Where is Waldo the Spa race thread?

 

[LIAMATTHURSO]

Where is Waldo the Spa race thread?

Where is Adam when i ask him for the details, reads my message and ignores it. Is that too long a name for a game? its being made atm

 

[LIAMATTHURSO]

Race Details

• Laps: 18 & 9
• Race Times: 12pm & 1pm
• Hotspots: Eau Rouge & Blanchimont
• Weather: Clear

The Track

Designed in 1920 by Jules de Thier and Henri Langlois Van Ophem, the original triangle-shaped course used public roads between the Belgian towns of Francorchamps, Malmedy, and Stavelot. The track was intended to have hosted its inaugural race in August 1921, however this event had to be cancelled as there was only one entrant. The first car race was held at the circuit in 1922, and two years later saw the first running of the now famous 24 Hours of Francorchamps race. The circuit was first used for Grand Prix racing in 1925. The old race track continued through the now-straightened Kemmel curves to the highest part of the track (104 metres above the lowest part), then went downhill into Les Combes, a fast, slightly banked downhill left-hander towards Burnenville, passing this village in a fast right hand sweep. Near Malmedy. Spa is located in the Belgian Ardennes countryside, and the old circuit was (and still is) used as everyday public road, and there were houses, trees, electric poles, barnyards, fields and other obstacles located right next to the track. Before 1970, there were no safety modifications of any kind done to the circuit and the conditions of the circuit were, aside from a few straw bales, virtually identical to everyday civilian use. Former Formula One racing driver and team owner Jackie Oliver was quoted as saying "if you went off the road, you didn't know what you were going to hit". Spa was the fastest road circuit in Europe at the time, and it had a nasty reputation for being dangerous and very fast- it was a circuit known to be one for the brave, and most drivers were frightened of it. The old Spa circuit was unique in that speeds were consistently high with hardly any let-up at all for 3–4 minutes. This made it an extraordinarily difficult mental challenge, because most of the corners were taken at 180+ mph and were not quite flat- every corner was as important as the one before it. If a driver lifted just that little bit more, then whole seconds, not tenths- would be lost. Even the slightest error of any kind was punished very harshly in more ways than one. But this reality also worked inversely- huge advantages could be gained if a driver came out of a corner slightly faster. Like the Nürburgring and Le Mans circuits, Spa became notorious for fatal accidents, as there were many deaths each year at the ultra-fast track, especially at the 1960 Belgian Grand Prix where 2 drivers, Chris Bristow and Alan Stacey were both killed within 15 minutes (although Stacey's accident was caused by a bird hitting him in the face) and Stirling Moss had crashed at Burnenville during practice and was severely injured. When Armco crash barriers were added to the track in 1970, deaths became less frequent there but the track was still notorious for other factors. The Ardennes Forest had very unpredictable weather and there were parts where it was raining and the track was wet, and other parts where the sun was shining and the track was completely dry. This factor was a commonality on long circuits, but the weather at Spa was always more unpredictable than other long circuits, combined with the fact that it was an ultra-high speed track with all but 1 corner (La Source) being extremely high speed made it one of, if not the most dangerous race track in the world. Multiple fatalities during the 1973 and 1975 24 Hours of Spa touring car races more or less sealed the old circuit's fate, and by 1978, the last year Spa was in its original form. In 1969, the Belgian Grand Prix was boycotted by F1 because of the extreme danger of Spa. There had been 10 racing fatalities in total at the track in the 1960s, including 5 in the 2 years previous. The drivers demanded changes made to Spa which were not possible on short notice, so the Belgian Grand Prix was dropped that year. Armco was added to the track and sections of it were improved (especially the Stavelot and Holowell sections), just like Armco had been added for the 1969 Le Mans race. One last race there the following year on the improved track was still not satisfactory enough (even after a temporary chicane was added at Malmedy just for that race) for the drivers in terms of safety, and even with the chicane, the drivers averaged 150+ mph (240 km/h) during the race. The most famous part of the circuit is the Eau Rouge / Raidillon combination. Having negotiated the La Source hairpin, drivers race down a straight to the point where the track crosses the Eau Rouge stream for the first time, before being launched steeply uphill into a sweeping left-right-left collection of corners with a blind summit. The 2005 and 2006 F1 World Champion Fernando Alonso explained: "You come into the corner downhill, have a sudden change [of direction] at the bottom and then go very steep uphill. From the cockpit, you cannot see the exit and as you come over the crest, you don't know where you will land. It is a crucial corner for the timed lap, and also in the race, because you have a long uphill straight afterwards where you can lose a lot of time if you make a mistake.
The Blanchimont high-speed left-hand turn, present in both the old 14 km circuit and the new, shorter, 7 km track, is the final sweeping corner of the track before the chicane, which leads to the pit straight.
This turn and the approach to it have caused serious accidents over time, the most recent being in 2001, when Luciano Burti lost the front wing of his Prost due to a clash with Eddie Irvine's Jaguar, losing front downforce and steering, leaving the track at 185 mph (298 km/h) and piling into the tyre wall, the impact knocking him out and burying the car into a mound of tyres. Problems have also occurred in lower classes of racing with Tom Kristensen having a very violent crash in a Formula 3000 car in 1997 after running wide on the entry to the Blanchimont turn and subsequently hitting the wall effectively throwing the monocoque back out in the middle of the track, where it was hit by numerous cars before coming to a complete halt. Formula 1 returned to Spa for 2007, with a modified track layout. The Bus Stop chicane was moved back towards Blanchimont and the La Source hairpin moved forward. This allowed more space for the new pit lane. The modifications gave a longer start/finish straight. New asphalt runoff was added to the inside and outside of Les Combes for the 2010 race, in line with the prevailing trends at other Formula One circuits.


Hotlap

Last Time Out


The feature race, delayed after many issues, finally got under way, with a lacklustre race, seeing the top 3 all spread out, with the only early action coming in the form of Matt losing it in the last corner, and taking 2 cars with him. Benji and Adam made mid race errors, with Adam dropping from a high up position, to being 8th after the pitstops. he soon claimed 7th from Liam, with the BMW unable to prevent the inevitable. The sprint race provided a much greater spectacle, with the Snakes Unite drivers locking out the front row. Ramsay got his traditional bad start, and Nathan managed to hit 4 cars by the time he reached T1. Down at the end of the back straight, Paul forced Ramsay off the track, forcing both to spin, with Oz outbraking only himself to go flying off at the exact same time. Nathan soon got up to P4 by passing Matt, and got within touching distance of the podium. Adam soon threw away a potential 1-2, by spinning in the double left, with Benji throwing away a win just a few laps later by spinning in the final corner. This left Liam and Nathan to fight it out in a 2 lap showdown, with the Porsche driver managing to initially pass into T1 on lap 12, but the M6 got back past at T3. Final lap repeated itself, with Nathan using the Porsches superior speed through the final corner to slip by into the lead, but went wide at T3, giving Liam an opportunity, the 2 collided in the chicane, allowing Gaz who had stayed out of trouble all race to snatch a victory right at the death, Nathan held P2, And Liam dropped to P6.


Questions


First ever event at Sugo done, would you ever want to return?


Halfway through the season, how would you rate it so far?


After Spa people can change cars, will you consider it?

 

[Ben McCluskey]

Now that is a very very very very very very very very very very long track history
I won't be reading.

First ever event at Sugo done, would you ever want to return?
I HATE THAT FINAL TURN
Apart from that it was alright

Halfway through the season, how would you rate it so far?
Not half way yet
Before Patch, brilliant
After patch, SH@%#&#^

After Spa people can change cars, will you consider it?
Maybe


Yeah I agree with that question, spa is a fun track. Eau Rouge is fun in a Renault. Going through it sideways.

I wouldn't have minded the wet, would've spiced the racing up. even with the tyres being a bin bag. An unexpected result is needed. And a wet baguette

If you read this, well done. You truly are an absolute snek.

 

[Ben Milden]

A completely unbiased race review there from Liam

 

[Ben McCluskey]

A completely unbiased race review there from Liam

Can't believe he missed the moment a snail was killed by Gaz's tyre
#RIPlittlesnail

 

[Ben McCluskey]

Where is Adam when i ask him for the details, reads my message and ignores it. Is that too long a name for a game? its being made atm

Even I knew the details i haven't been online since the race

Thanks for posting

 

[LIAMATTHURSO]

A completely unbiased race review there from Liam

Well if i got more race reviews, and more videos, (not full races like you do) and it would be more detailed. This is the reason i got rid of last time out, and people moaned i took it away.

 

[Ben McCluskey]

Well if i got more race reviews, and more videos, (not full races like you do) and it would be more detailed. This is the reason i got rid of last time out, and people moaned i took it away.

Well what you know

 

[LIAMATTHURSO]

Well what you know

Why didnt you link it then m8888

 

[LIAMATTHURSO]

Even I knew the details i haven't been online since the race
View attachment 230939Thanks for posting

Nice to know that the person who makes the threads doesn't get told then

 

[Ben Milden]

Nice to know that the person who makes the threads doesn't get told then

I told you Sunday

 

[LIAMATTHURSO]

I told you Sunday

No, you told me this morning

 

[Ben Milden]

No, you told me this morning

No for the original race which was wet until you losers couldn’t drive in a bit of wet as gaz says, I sent you Sunday

 

[Ben McCluskey]

Why didnt you link it then m8888

Because no one cares how my races go lol

 

[LIAMATTHURSO]

No for the original race which was wet until you losers couldn’t drive in a bit of wet as gaz says, I sent you Sunday

I have no messages on facebook from you on sunday, and nothing about wet details, go look m88

 

[Jonathan Seekings]

I posted my race review and got a solid p5 in the feature, but no mention. And no mention of matt sneaking... sorry sneking onto the podium in the sprint after half a race long battle with ben.

 

[Zarf]

Driver Name: Ben
Gamertag: Zarf
Car Manufacturer: ( BMW M6 )
Car # and Sponsor: (#Undecided )
Team: ( SoloMeaGanday )

 

[Scooter fales]

Good, No Changies allowed!

Seriously though, If anyone knows anyone that would like to race some Multi-class. Perhaps we can fill the field with some Prototypes. Just a thought. With 8 races left, there is still plenty of time to make a big move in the points.

I just had some club on xbox called American sim racing leauge invite me to an imsa leauge on Sundays I can see if any of them want to join in if you would like

 

[ozwheels]

Here is a thread talking about the soft tire issues. Rain tires are very soft by nature, so there is a comparison to be made with them having the same problem. http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/sh...after-2-laps&p=1444004&viewfull=1#post1444004

And a post from a dev acknowledging there’s an issue. http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/sh...-after-patch&p=1444778&viewfull=1#post1444778