FM7 Massive FM7 Car Reveal... the First 167 Announced!

[Paul Jeffrey]

Now we know... the first 167 cars to feature in Forza Motorsport 7 have been revealed, with one or two surprises in store for fans of the series...

The mammoth first batch of cars revealed by Turn 10 Studios gives fans a great insight into the fantastic level of diversity coming to the new game. With historic cars from some of the best moments of motoring history, right the way through to the bang up-to-date Aston Martin DB11 of 2017, Forza Motorsport 7 appears to have a little something for everyone.

Unfortunately it does look like the developers have taken the path most trodden, namely selecting a number of unique cars that don't necessarily form a coherent full series schedule, however with the proposed launch roster of cars reaching in excess of 700 cars (yeah, 700. SEVEN HUNDRED!!), it is fair to assume that one will be able to pull together a reasonably diverse grid of similar performance machines when setting up a race event come launch day.

Interestingly the list has a couple of surprise inclusions, like the world renowned McLaren Honda MP4/4 of 1988 specification, the Formula One car that powered Ayrton Senna and Alain Prost to almost uncountable victories during that season, eventually giving Senna his first Formula One World Championship.

As with practically any racing game worth it's salt in the current marketplace, the new Forza title benefits from a number of Porsche machines, with one of the standout highlights of not only the Porsche content, but the game in general, is the 2017 specification 919 Hybrid that raced, and won, at Le Mans this year and looks odds on favourite to wrap up another World Endurance Championship victory at the close of the current season.

As can be seen from the first reveal list below, Porsche are joined in the simulation by the exceptionally difficult to secure, and all too rare, Ferrari licence. Unlike other sims with the red cars, Forza Motorsport 7 does seem to have selected a pretty interesting and unique selection of cars from the Prancing Horse. A nice mix of old and new are present in this first batch reveal, giving us some stunning models from the history of the brand, perhaps with the majestic 1948 Ferrari 166MM Barchetta immediately standing out as one to take note of come release day.

With diversity as the buzz word in this new release, the slower end of the spectrum (relatively speaking..) has also been catered for, with a number of close racing friendly machines listed, plus the odd SUV for good measure.. Oh, when I say SUV, I actually mean something a bit more sporty that the regular school run vehicle, more along the lines of the rarely seen 2014 Lamborghini Urus.. still at concept stage, but due for a 2018 release, this one is 4 wheel drive on steroids...

• 2013 Ariel Atom 500 V8
• 2016 Ariel Nomad
• 1958 Aston Martin DBR1
• 1960 Aston Martin DB4GT Zagato
• 1964 Aston Martin DB5
• 1977 Aston Martin V8 Vantage
• 1998 Aston Martin V8 Vantage V600
• 2006 Aston Martin #007 Aston Martin Racing DBR9
• 2008 Aston Martin DBS
• 2010 Aston Martin One-77
• 2012 Aston Martin V12 Zagato
• 2012 Aston Martin Vanquish
• 2013 Aston Martin V12 Vantage S
• 2016 Aston Martin Vantage GT12
• 2016 Aston Martin Vulcan
• 2017 Aston Martin DB11
• 2014 BAC Mono
• 1992 Bugatti EB110 Super Sport
• 2011 Bugatti Veyron Super Sport
• 2013 Donkervoort D8 GTO
• 1948 Ferrari 166MM Barchetta
• 1952 Ferrari 375
• 1953 Ferrari 500 Mondial
• 1957 Ferrari 250 California
• 1957 Ferrari 250 Testa Rossa
• 1962 Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta Lusso
• 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO
• 1963 Ferrari 250LM
• 1964 Ferrari F-158 F1
• 1967 Ferrari #24 Ferrari Spa 330 P4
• 1968 Ferrari 365 GTB/4
• 1969 Ferrari Dino 246 GT
• 1971 Ferrari #2 Ferrari Automobili 312 P
• 1976 Ferrari #1 Scuderia Ferrari 312T2
• 1982 Ferrari #71 Ferrari France 512 BB/LM
• 1982 Ferrari #72 N.A.R.T. 512 BB/LM
• 1984 Ferrari 288 GTO
• 1987 Ferrari F40
• 1989 Ferrari F40 Competizione
• 1990 Ferrari #1 Scuderia Ferrari 641
• 1992 Ferrari 512 TR
• 1994 Ferrari F355 Berlinetta
• 1995 Ferrari F50
• 1996 Ferrari F50 GT
• 1998 Ferrari #12 Risi Competizione F333 SP
• 1998 Ferrari #30 MOMO Doran Racing F333 SP
• 2002 Ferrari 575M Maranello
• 2002 Ferrari Enzo Ferrari
• 2003 Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
• 2004 Ferrari 612 Scaglietti
• 2007 Ferrari 430 Scuderia
• 2008 Ferrari California
• 2009 Ferrari 458 Italia
• 2010 Ferrari 599 GTO
• 2010 Ferrari 599XX
• 2011 Ferrari #62 Risi Competizione 458 Italia GTC
• 2011 Ferrari FF
• 2012 Ferrari F12berlinetta
• 2013 Ferrari 458 Speciale
• 2013 Ferrari LaFerrari
• 2014 Ferrari #51 AF Corse 458 Italia GTE
• 2014 Ferrari #62 Risi Competizione 458 Italia GTLM
• 2014 Ferrari California T
• 2014 Ferrari FXX K
• 2015 Ferrari 488 GTB
• 2015 Ferrari F12tdf
• 2012 Hennessey Venom GT
• 2011 Koenigsegg Agera
• 2015 Koenigsegg One:1
• 2016 Koenigsegg Regera
• 2013 KTM X-Bow R
• 1967 Lamborghini Miura P400
• 1986 Lamborghini LM 002
• 1988 Lamborghini Countach LP5000 QV
• 1988 Lamborghini Jalpa
• 1997 Lamborghini Diablo SV
• 2008 Lamborghini Reventón
• 2010 Lamborghini Murciélago LP 670-4 SV
• 2011 Lamborghini Gallardo LP 570-4 Superleggera
• 2011 Lamborghini Sesto Elemento
• 2012 Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4
• 2013 Lamborghini Veneno
• 2014 Lamborghini #14 GMG Racing LP 570-4 Super Trofeo
• 2014 Lamborghini #18 DragonSpeed Gallardo LP 570-4 Super Trofeo
• 2014 Lamborghini Huracán LP 610-4
• 2014 Lamborghini Urus
• 2015 Lamborghini #63 Squadra Corse Huracán LP620-2 Super Trofeo
• 2016 Lamborghini Aventador LP750-4 SV
• 2016 Lamborghini Centenario LP 770-4
• 1956 Lotus Eleven
• 1966 Ford Lotus Cortina
• 1967 Lotus Type 49
• 1971 Lotus Elan Sprint
• 1976 Lotus #5 Team Lotus 77
• 1990 Vauxhall Lotus Carlton
• 1999 Lotus Elise Series 1 Sport 190
• 2000 Lotus 340R
• 2002 Lotus Esprit V8
• 2005 Lotus Elise 111S
• 2009 Lotus 2-Eleven
• 2011 Lotus Evora S
• 2012 Lotus Exige S
• 2016 Lotus 3-Eleven
• 1939 Maserati 8CTF
• 1953 Maserati A6GCS/53 Pininfarina Berlinetta
• 1957 Maserati 300 S
• 1961 Maserati Tipo 61 Birdcage
• 1997 Maserati Ghibli Cup
• 2004 Maserati MC12
• 2010 Maserati Gran Turismo S
• 2014 Maserati #35 M.Calamia Swiss Team MC Trofeo
• 2014 Maserati Ghibli S Q4
• 1966 McLaren M2B
• 1969 McLaren #4 McLaren Cars M8B
• 1976 McLaren #11 Team McLaren M23
• 1988 McLaren #12 Honda McLaren MP4/4
• 1993 McLaren F1
• 1997 McLaren F1 GT
• 2011 McLaren #59 McLaren GT 12C GT3
• 2011 McLaren 12C
• 2013 McLaren P1
• 2014 McLaren #60 Bhaitech 12C GT3
• 2015 McLaren 570S Coupé
• 2015 McLaren 650S Coupe
• 2015 McLaren P1 GTR
• 2010 Noble M600
• 2009 Pagani Zonda Cinque Roadster
• 2010 Pagani Zonda R
• 2012 Pagani Huayra
• 2016 Pagani Huayra BC
• 1955 Porsche 550A Spyder
• 1957 Porsche 356A Speedster
• 1960 Porsche 718 RS 60
• 1970 Porsche 914/6
• 1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS
• 1982 Porsche 911 Turbo 3.3
• 1987 Porsche #17 Porsche AG 962C
• 1987 Porsche #17 Porsche Dunlop 962C
• 1987 Porsche 959
• 1989 Porsche 944 Turbo
• 1993 Porsche 928 GTS
• 1995 Porsche 911 GT2
• 1998 Porsche 911 GT1 Strassenversion
• 2003 Porsche Carrera GT
• 2004 Porsche 911 GT3 (996)
• 2008 Porsche #7 Penske Racing RS Spyder Evo
• 2011 Porsche #45 Flying Lizard 911 GT3-RSR
• 2012 Porsche 911 GT2 RS
• 2012 Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0
• 2012 Porsche Cayenne Turbo
• 2014 Porsche 911 Turbo S
• 2014 Porsche 918 Spyder
• 2015 Porsche #19 Porsche Team 919 Hybrid
• 2015 Porsche Macan Turbo
• 2016 Porsche 911 GT3 RS
• 2016 Porsche Cayman GT4
• 2017 Porsche #1 Porsche Team 919 Hybrid
• 2017 Porsche Panamera Turbo
• 2018 Porsche 911 GT2 RS
• 2011 Radical SR8 RX
• 2015 Radical RXC Turbo
• 2004 Saleen S7
• 2016 Spania GTA GTA Spano
• 2005 TVR Sagaris
• 2015 Ultima Evolution Coupe 1020
• 2016 W Motors Lykan HyperSport
• 2016 Zenvo TS1

Forza Motorsport 7 will release on Xbox One, Xbox One X and Windows 10 PC October 3rd 2017.

Check out the new Forza Motorsport 7 sub forum here at RaceDepartment to keep abreast of all the latest news and discussions as more details reveal on this exciting new title. Join in with the community, catch up on the news and have yourself an exciting time while we await more news from E3 and beyond.

Happy with the first car list reveal from FM7? Any obvious stand out choices? What would you like to see included in the list before launch day? Let us know in the comments section below!

 

[Paul Bennett]

Does any sim/game really need 700 cars

Edit : including skins ?

 

[MarkR]

I've been on the Forza journey with Turn 10 from the start (does anyone else remember emailing them a photo of your pre-order slip for the first free VIP membership?) and I'm looking forward to Forza 7 and already pre-ordered the Ultimate Edition. 700 cars are almost certainly too many for one person, I probably won't drive even 200 of them but the choice it offers the community in both cars and racing styles is something else. More tracks are always good and let's hope more are added along the way.

I hope the wheel feedback is as good as the reports from Goodwood. I enjoy race sims but I also enjoy Forza which is clearly a racing game, it produces some surprisingly good racing all the same. It also has one of the best car setup tuning systems (as opposed to car tuning/adding parts). Above all, though one thing guaranteed with Forza is that it will work as advertised and be feature complete on day 1 (on Xbox One, lets hope that is also true on PC).

The car part modifying and building is part of the fun of this game. I know not everyone enjoys that but I wonder how many people here have modified their own real world cars in some way, I bet it is quite a few. Sims with real world builds are great but Forza with its 'what if' builds is also good fun.

VR on PC hasn't been confirmed but nor has it been denied this would be a huge bonus.

Using my man maths calculator Forza including pricey DLC is well ahead on the cost/benefit ratio:

Total cost of game inc DLC / Hours played = Less than the price of renting the latest movie release

Forza is what it is, I doubt it will appeal to the hardcore here and we live in a time of so much choice, must be the best ever across the full sim to arcade racing spectrum. With over 5m players they are doing something right.

 

[Timmy UK]

Could be BS, could not.
Project Cars 2 and Forza 1093 seem saying and doing the same stuff...
Maybe they do listen.
Sometimes..
"Oh wheel users are going to flip a lid. There's so many peripherals available on PC. We basically went through our forums, we went through other people's forums, we were looking at all the fan-requested wheels, then we just started getting them hooked-up through Windows 10, through UWP, so the fan-requested wheels all work: Logitech, you name it.

"But on top of that we had one of our physics engineers actually dedicated to really tuning that wheel, we had race car drivers come in, Tanner Foust comes in all the time, we've got other guest race car drivers, they come in and they really help us dialling the force feedback on all devices, Xbox One as well. The amount of options you have as a wheel user has dramatically increased, it's much more in line to what you would expect of a PC racing game. So I think our wheel users are going to be overjoyed".
Dan Greenawalt.

With this list from Forza out now, it at least explains the wall to wall Project Cars 2 PR stuff...
The thing is, any improvement will be a good thing, for both games, and us, the customers.
And as we know, things can be patched/updated as we go along.
Fanatec have had some input, so that has to be a plus.
Video car racing on the PC, or 'sim' racing as some like to call it, needs a huge kick up the arse.
Forza coming to the PC is a great move, and very brave.
Sony will be watching very closely; games like Forza and GT Sport are used to sell consoles.
Look at iracing's tracks. Really look at them.
The buildings are made of cardboard.
Road great.
Trackside stuff, rubbish.
And how much a track?
AC, huge list of issues from 'sim' racers..
RaceRoom still not finished..
RF2, years behind...
If Forza is successful, if you can actually drive the cars with a wheel, the others will have to up their game, quickly.
So surely that is a good thing for all of us?

 

[Celestiale]

If they have multiple controller support and good FFB i will buy it, would be a nice diversion from the hardcore sims..
But that's a really big if....

 

[theravenousbeast]

Car count aside, (which is pretty much Microsoft flexing it's financial muscles) if they really made the game for "car lovers and lovers of racing games", it would have a level of accuracy to make it at least slightly believable.

And it does have a "level of accuracy to make it at least slightly believable".

In spite what your deluded, elitist mind might think, Forza does not play like Mario Kart.

 

[theravenousbeast]

Sooo, they modelled a handful of new cars.

Then they tweaked all the rendering/shaders to make it look nicer.

Then they took all the old car content and just brushed the batch-updater over it, and are now selling it all in a 'new' game, and loads of it as 'new' DLC.

Mwuhahahaha.

The profit margin at Turn 10 must be mind-boggling now.

Still at least the environments get some decent attention with amazing shaders and rain and day/night and all that jazz.

At least they aren't braindead enough to shoot themselves in the foot like Polyphony and go make an "esports" focused racing game no one ****ing asked for. PD literally leave wads of cash for MS and T10 by ditching the car collecting game.

 

[CC]

Does any sim/game really need 700 cars

Edit : including skins ?

People complain there is no cars in some games , now 700 cars is too much yeah ?
What is the magical number 367 ?

 

[Celestiale]

People complain there is no cars in some games , now 700 cars is too much yeah ?
What is the magical number 367 ?

Best post so far

In all honesty, i couldn't think of anything better then a Sim with telemetry-accuracy of Assetto Corsa, some nice roads and tracks, and 700 (road) cars. I would take another car every day, just to test it, go for a test drive on a nice mountain road, and blast around with sports cars. But some people - usually the ones to take one car and run 700 laps on the same circuit to get the last thousands of a second out of it - don't fathom this concept...

 

[Isaac Chavira]

Oh come on friend.....
It's called entertainment and companies that produce material for entertainment have a rather predictable and bad habbit of wanting to make lots of money. That means mass market appeal...

You want sim accuracy or the need to discuss it, maybe you parked in the wrong thread.
Why criticise the game for being something it may never be, or something some want it to be but it just won't.

I think many are just hoping its the best Forza title to date but also the first proper Forza designed to run on PC as well. Some will be glad if it sucks. just so they can moan some more. I personally think its great to see it being available on PC and working with a wide selection of PC wheels.

Your allowed to be positive and happy too...

I agree, Forza was my gateway into SIM racing. From there I wen't on to GTR, RACE 07, rFactor, Assetto Corsa and Project Cars. I may even buy an iRacing car.

 

[Ricardo Rey]

My first "sim" was this...

Then this...

It's hard for an old man like me to complain about this...

 

[Nick Gregory]

And it does have a "level of accuracy to make it at least slightly believable".

In spite what your deluded, elitist mind might think, Forza does not play like Mario Kart.

When the FFB is as bad as it is, and the physics are as sub-par as they are, you might as well be.

 

[Patrik Saxen]

Looks good for those who are interested in a Forza type of game, I myself have never been a fan of the "last to first in 3 laps" kind of racing that you get in games like Forza and GT no matter how good the physics would be.

 

[CC]

For example Codemasters F1 games used to be pretty decent ,
I remember 2010 when it first came out was really enjoyable to play , not a hardcore sim but really fun ,
2011 was the same fun to play ,
2012 was awesome we must have raced over a 1000 hrs online on xbox with F 2012 ,
2013 was ok ish , but lost some of the edge of the previous games ,

What went wrong since 2013 with these Titles , Codemasters started all this stuff with online points system for achievements , but the main issues is they started taking major advice from the community on the forums in which 85% was aged between 12-17 , this is why it went down ill ,
and still there pursuing this route , from betas and such to try and gain interest back ,
and now with Max Verstappen playing F1 2017 with TV Cam view ???
its to gain interest in the younger people ,

No Xbox and PS title will ever be 1000% Hardcore simulation , simply due to the fact of the younger generation of people they create these games for , not for 30-40-50 year olds who love hardcore sims ,

its to sell games to young kids who parents want them to have all the best toys and out smart there friends at school , kids sell games not simulation ,

but in saying this , in all my years , SMS , Forza/Turn 10 , and Codemasters is where I have raced and had the most fun in racing , these games are pure entertainment ,
try racing a sim after a few beers with your friends , then go play forza , at least with forza you will come back with a smile on your face.

 

[Timmy UK]

When the FFB is as bad as it is, and the physics are as sub-par as they are, you might as well be.

With all respect Nick, could you tell us all when did you play the new Forza?
I have not, and again, with respect, I think you have not.
Remember, I am saying, 'IF'.
And as some else stated, it is a big if...
If the force-feedback works, if the physics work, then people may be in for a shock...
I know I will be..
But it will be a nice shock..
You sound worried.
Why?
Oh, and Mario Kart is a fun game; is that not the point of games.
And, I have see a quote from the creator of GT Sport, and he has stated that the 'car collecting' bit is still in his game. Again, time will tell.
To be fair, they has only shown part of the game in beta testing.
So, it could be true.
I like all car games, I want to see all games do well, nothing wrong with that is there?

 

[thewarmer]

More is always better I will take a look at some point.
We have come a long since. my first racing game.
from the late 60's that I played has a kid through all the many changes I have seen game wise in my 51 years to what we have now is mind blowing .

 

[Epistolarius]

Who decides this ? Unknown god of simracing ?

Everytime this nonsens lol

Would be nice if you didn't just cut out pieces of what I said out of context to suit your narrative.

I'll get it sometime down the line because of the parts tuning aspect and amount of cars, mostly. While it's not a full on sim, similar to Gran Turismo it's just fun to experiment with what-if builds, and this one is on PC for a change. My purchase decision only depends on how the release on PC is... if it's running as bad as FM6 Apex and FH3 then I'm not really willing to put down full price in the Windows Store...

This is what I actually said. Learn reading...

Edit: What's with the ****ing haha rating now? Get a grip @Andy Kettler

 

[Mr Latte]

We have already seen and continue to see "sim hardcore" titles branching into the mainstream market for much higher sales. So this "physics" debate towards console gamers is kind of silly. "Sim Racing" has indeed become more widespread but will this be highlighted in Forza 7, having more sim orientated physics or options, well maybe not? Will P Cars 2 be much different on a PS Pro to a mid range PC using the same wheel?

I think the biggest disappointment over the years with all racing titles is the lack of really good AI. Or features for hot lapping like the ability to load up and race not just 1 but instead say 3 fastest laps as ghost cars and give them a specific transparent colour, eg red, blue and green. Don't know about you guys but I could spend hours just playing to try and beat my own PB or a friends lap.

What I do know, is how Forza franchise and GT people will spend quite a bit of money to enjoy it on.
Such is the passion for the series...

Before getting a cockpit or wheel here is Forza in a unique way on silly consoles.
I was always interested in technically enjoying games to the best ways possible and having past hobby in audio/home cinema.

Forza 2

4x Xbox Consoles
3x Component - VGA Adapters (Prior to HDMI being available)
3x 19" TFT Monitors
1x 80" Projector for real-time replay
7.1 Dolby Audio

A comfy sofa, dumb ass joypad and big cheesy grin.

Then later, came my first ever cockpit but man how this market has grown and changed....

 

[Enpassant]

Even bilion cars to choose do not substitute the one decent in purposeful sim/game environement. Sorry I have one car and I love them and I don't need more to have pleasure of driving, and to move around... What is the idea of several hundred of cars?

 

[Rob]

If people enjoy it (and many do.. as you used to ) then I don't see any problem at all with Turn 10. Everyone knows what they are getting with Forza it's not like it's an new unknown commodity.

I've actually had a lot of fun with F6 over the last month or so (online and off) after owning F3, F4 and F5 and never giving them much more than a cursory go. I'll probably pick up this new one when it comes out, it won't get as much play time as other titles but as a diversion and something a bit different I know i'll have some fun with it.

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

I never said people shouldn't enjoy Forza, and by all means pick this up before DiRT4.

For those new to the genre, they may want to play a real SIM, and not GTA...that was my point. People don't have money to buy them all, and if my horrible experiences with Turn 10 (they have gotten worse, IMO...too many flaws to even start) can save someone who wants to race from having to pretend a car collecting game is anything close to real, then that's a win.

 

[VFX Pro]

If FM7 doesn't support telemetry for motion rig and buttkickers (SimCommander 4), true triple monitor support, it's DOA for me. PC2, IRacing and Assetto Corsa will remain my top sims.