PC1 Latest Build testing.

[Andy_J]

As you all know, Ian gave me a free pass to test the latest builds and that's what I have been doing for the last week. I will report here as and when I see fit to tell all about my findings.

But I will say that the latest build (296) is quite good. Now lets make some sense of my statement. I used a Lotus 98T in helmet cam using my antique MOMO red wheel and I can honestly report it is coming along much better than I anticipated. The actual feel and immersion is damn fine at this point. The handling is strange at first compared to say...RF2 and FVA, but it grows on you within minutes. At this point in time, this actual car feels good. I like it and I love the Milan circuit. The damage model has come on leaps and bounds.

I am doing some more testing all of next week using a G27 and I will also test some of the other cars that don't interest me as much (I am a F1 nut) and see how the feel in comparison to Shift 2, because that is what I was initially comparing PCars to.

I would like the replay function to have a directors mode though. Something that jumps from action to action and from car to car.

Aside from that, the replay's do crash my PC quite often but I understand that is being looked at.

Watch this space.

 

[Bruno Pereira]

Thanks Nathan. Good couple of posts and sensible too.

Now please back on topic. If someone want's to post something about the latest build here, positive or negative, feel free to do so without being called names. And if you don't like it, say so. If you do, say so, but whatever please type what you feel and don't be labelled up as "haters". This, as Nathan states, is not a development forum. On here we can say if we like Walmart coffee or we don't, and I wouldn't expect Walmart representatives (or investors) to come here and call us names.

I would expect speculation at least should be put aside also, otherwise i might start saying you are a competition representative (or investor) as i dont know who you are

 

[Andy_J]

competition representative? For who Bruno? Are you connected to WMD in any way? And what speculation are you concerned about?

 

[Bruno Pereira]

competition representative? For who Bruno? Are you connected to WMD in any way? And what speculation are you concerned about?

That's a speculation im creating from a "guess", just like you seem to do very often based on your last posts. I ask you the same thing

Please just avoid guessing, speculate or labeling someone as a representative (investor) just because they have a different point of view when compared with yours

Isnt this what you asked for in your last post?

 

[Graham Byford]

I've just spent a good part of today trying to get something decent from the force feedback, despite trying different tweakers and adjusting things myself I still can't feel much at all when the rear loses grip. In the M3 GT there is no feel at all of this and during understeer the wheel just goes slack. I tried the Asano x 4 and that's slightly better but still very hard to judge rear grip levels and what the car is doing.

There is so many other ffb effects banging away the best thing I find is to turn most off, but it still doesn't help with getting more feel from the car.

 

[Andy_J]

Sorry, you have lost me Bruno. I haven't a clue what you are inferring to.

Can you let this go now and we can get back on topic.

 

[Graham Byford]

On the subject of the best tyres for the Formula B. Option B was the one I preferred running the dark_amber tread and I liked the default way more than Option C that were both using the amber one.

 

[Bruno Pereira]

Sorry, you have lost me Bruno. I haven't a clue what you are inferring to.

Can you let this go now and we can get back on topic.

Would be nice to Andy

Thanks for the feedback Graham, i had that feeling also early, increasing the tire ffb to 165 did help a bit, but it lead to other cars to feel too heavy after as it require redoing.

 

[Peter]

What physics engine are they using at this moment?

 

[Graham Byford]

Would be nice to Andy

Thanks for the feedback Graham, i had that feeling also early, increasing the tire ffb to 165 did help a bit, but it lead to other cars to feel too heavy after as it require redoing.

I adjust the FFB in the dev F1-Vehicles menu, and use the clipping tool to adjust, in most cars I have to reduce the multiplier a lot as it clips too much at default.

 

[Graham Byford]

What physics engine are they using at this moment?

The madness one I guess that's been tweaked, with a newer tyre model.

 

[Bruno Pereira]

I adjust the FFB in the dev F1-Vehicles menu, and use the clipping tool to adjust, in most cars I have to reduce the multiplier a lot as it clips too much at default.

That also works, but beware that in the F1 menu if i recall the Tire FFB is locked at 100 while in the option menu it goes up to 200.

 

[Graham Byford]

That also works, but beware that in the F1 menu if i recall the Tire FFB is locked at 100 while in the option menu it goes up to 200.

Possibly I don't know, but so far I've had to reduce it in every car from default because it's too high and clips.

 

[Rob Every]

I tried this for the first time in e few months today.

Lasted about 15 minutes, mainly becasie I tried 3 cars, and every single one had the same engine sound.

I mean for goodness sake, if you want to be taken seriously

 

[martinsalat]

this is called place holder sounds.as you know this game is in development

 

[Bruno Pereira]

Possibly I don't know, but so far I've had to reduce it in every car from default because it's too high and clips.

In the end it depends on each one personal taste and the wheels they are using, ive seen multiple setups for the CSR-Elite that i have but so far 80/165 seems to be the best in most of the cars and only needs a multiplier adjustment on the FWD in order so they dont feel so light.

 

[torsten schmitt]

Hi, which three cars have the same sound?

 

[Rob Every]

I sat in a Palmer first, then a Caterham, then an Atom, they all sounded the same, willtry again later

 

[Bruno Pereira]

I sat in a Palmer first, then a Caterham, then an Atom, they all sounded the same, willtry again later

Cant say they sound the same, theres a distinct difference in between them.
You could say the cars using V8 engines do sound very close to eachother but even those have a distinctive sound when accelerating.

 

[Rob Every]

I tried again today, I tried 4 cars and they all had exactly the same engine sound

Simply pointing out the game is in development is not enough anymore, its been in development for two years.

Uninstall and leave it for another year I reckon. I mean for Gods sake I cant even access the pit menu when I am in the car, I have to "retire"

I guess this game has never suited me, I tried again, but although it looks pretty, the basics have always been lacking. For me, not some, but for me, let's leave it at that.

 

[torsten schmitt]

Rob, You really should leave it alone then. The cars may use placeholder sounds but they don't use the same sounds. I also have the feeling that you haven't understand the point of the project and with it the current state of development.