FM8 Forza Motorsport 2023

[Kurupt CDN]

CP2077 runs beautifully now, and I find it to be a little better now. But I still have personal skill issues I need to conquer before I can truly dive into it. I'm all kinds of bad at first person shooters. CP2077 doesn't hold my hand enough for me to find the game enjoyable. The enemies still can easily hit and kill me, while they are bullet sponges. Hacking feels unintuitive and I would like to see what my key binds are while in hacking mode. It's a royal PITA to keep toggling between the game and my key bindings while trying to do s***. Surprise stealth attacks are still not working for my character. I sneak into position and use a silenced pistol, and... Bullet sponge mode activates. WTF! The only success I am having with the game is melee, but I can't hack and slash MFs on the other side of the factory floor before they either spray me with lead before I can get to them or, hack my character and cause all sorts of weird s*** to happen...

In short, I'm still not having a good time with CP2077 2.0. Starfield's AI is an extra special kind of dumb, and that helps with my craptastic FPS skills. Plus the exploits adds an extra level humor to the game (construction scaffold ship FTW). So it's more of my speed, even if it's boring in a lot of areas.

But lame brained AI is definitely the topic of FM. Is there a way to take the "hit me" sign off of my car when racing the AI? Or should we start calling the CPU A.S. (Artificially Stupid)? The bots seem to go out of their way to leave a mark on my car whenever I make a pass. Sometimes these bums will go out of their way to do so. One example I can think of is, I'm currently grinding the Porsche Carera for the modern sport event, and I am repeatedly practicing with the car at Watkins Glen. I gave the Ai all of the inside line and attempted to pull an over-under on it. This fool took the bait and went wide, while I tucked in and took the inside line. When I was about to clear them, it turned back onto the inside line and pitted me. I could have sworn they were supposed to be able to see me? What gives???

I agree, they aren't the best but from my experience not the worst at game launch and will hopefully improve in time.

What AI strength are you running?
I am using 8 and have only had a handful of collisions resulting in me going off... admitting l might have been the cause in half of them lol

They definitely will rub doors going through corners and give the odd tap from behind.

If you try to dive bomb or sneak into the inside of a turn they will turn into you like you don't exist.

My biggest issue I've seen, is the AI's random slow down during a race, where they will just hit the brakes after a turn or on a straight?

In regards to my HDR comment in earlier posts, I figured out what was causing the issue. I had night light enabled in Windows which was warming the picture at 9pm and disabling at 7am so it was screwing up the HDR as it was set to daytime light.

Overall, I am really enjoying the visuals and find it looks absolutely beautiful in certain settings.
Hopefully, some future optimization will gain me 10+ fps so I can maintain 60 fps in all conditions at high settings 2560x1080 and I won't have to upgrade my GTX 1660 ti

 

[Deleted member 197115]

Absolutely, AC and ACC AI was clearly not better on the release.
AC AI is still worse IMO.
Microsoft owns ChatGPT and can definitely make bots smarter using AI tech.

 

[Butthurt_Saddle_sore]

Trying to link to a comunity update about incoming improvements and QOL changes...

Forza Motorsport Community Update

An update to our Forza Motorsport community.

forza.net

From the article...

While this first update focuses on quality of life and stability issues, we look forward to continuing to listen to, and evaluate, our players' feedback in future updates.

A patch of some sort is coming next week some time. No Idea on what it's going to be.

About my Ai difficulty settings. I'm currently running at 6. I started out at 4, but that was very bad. The entire field was basically road blocks, and they used very little strategy, even amonst themselves. It's better than FM7's tendency to have formation laps, but on 4 it wasn't much better.

I've switched to 6, and now I have to work hard to get on the podium. But it's kind of enjoyable needing to drive the wheels off my car, just to stand a chance. It reminds me of racing on some of the hardcore sims... Just not as brutal. On AC, the entire field could spank me if I set the game to do it. LOL

 

[Deleted member 197115]

Trying to link to a comunity update about incoming improvements and QOL changes...

Forza Motorsport Community Update

An update to our Forza Motorsport community.

forza.net

From the article...



A patch of some sort is coming next week some time. No Idea on what it's going to be.

About my Ai difficulty settings. I'm currently running at 6. I started out at 4, but that was very bad. The entire field was basically road blocks, and they used very little strategy, even amonst themselves. It's better than FM7's tendency to have formation laps, but on 4 it wasn't much better.

I've switched to 6, and now I have to work hard to get on the podium. But it's kind of enjoyable needing to drive the wheels off my car, just to stand a chance. It reminds me of racing on some of the hardcore sims... Just not as brutal. On AC, the entire field could spank me if I set the game to do it. LOL

Remember that Community Update on Starfield, they promised lots of stuff missing like DLSS, FOV, etc.
Well, I've finished the game and uninstalled it already as most folks who started playing day one, and update is nowhere to be seen?

 

[Kurupt CDN]

Absolutely, AC and ACC AI was clearly not better on the release.
AC AI is still worse IMO.
Microsoft owns ChatGPT and can definitely make bots smarter using AI tech.

AMS2 was pretty bad at launch too and took nearly 2 yrs to get decent.

I noticed a option in the accessibility settings under blind driving called " Contact" which enables and disables Car contact in single mode only.

I haven't tried it with off, and not sure if it makes the AI extra avoidable or turns them to a ghost?

Question regarding loading tunes.
It might have been a bug?
I tried to load a tune while in practice but was only given the save option?
I can load a tune through car manager between races.

In short, it seems I can't load a tune while in a session, only between races.

Am I doing something wrong or has anyone else experienced this?

 

[Kurupt CDN]

My wishlist for this title:

Performance optimization
Some sort of AA option for non RTX cards
In game sharpening option
Seat adjustment: up/down/left/right and tilt.

Single player mode:
AI strength increase to 10
Ability to adjust race length

MP:
Better car balancing for spec racing servers.
More open class servers

 

[Deleted member 197115]

Some sort of AA option for non RTX cards

It's TAA for all cards unless you can use DLAA/DLSS that replace it.

 

[Butthurt_Saddle_sore]

Remember that Community Update on Starfield, they promised lots of stuff missing like DLSS, FOV, etc.
Well, I've finished the game and uninstalled it already as most folks who started playing day one, and update is nowhere to be seen?

You practically speed ran Starfield. I'm taking my sweet time with the game. For the moment I am trying to hit one of those super multi-mineral veins on Bessel 3. Once I have that, then I can really get into the shinanigans. It's just tough as nails to find a vein though. If the game had some sort of compass or showed the direction you were facing on the map, then it would be a lot easier to get this done.

I am sure Turn 10 will make faster progress in stabilizing Forza, than Bugthesda on fixing Starfield. Hell Bugthesda will probably patch more exploits out before even touching anything on that list. For example the merchants hidden chests have already been relocated. Those scoundrels!!!

 

[Deleted member 197115]

Looks like that DLSS issue much worse, happens every time you go into car setup and only way to fix is restart. Hopefully get patched soon.

UI - DLSS automatic change to FSR or disappeared in settings (1608291)

Hi, there is some issue with DLSS. I turned on DLSS on quality, do one race, after that i enter to garage to tune car. After all that i back to options and saw that DLSS just dissappeard and FSR just apper 😮 Normally i did not have FSR in graphic menu. Also cars in garage when tune them or...

forums.forza.net

 

[mcroshaw]

You practically speed ran Starfield. I'm taking my sweet time with the game. For the moment I am trying to hit one of those super multi-mineral veins on Bessel 3. Once I have that, then I can really get into the shinanigans. It's just tough as nails to find a vein though. If the game had some sort of compass or showed the direction you were facing on the map, then it would be a lot easier to get this done.

I am sure Turn 10 will make faster progress in stabilizing Forza, than Bugthesda on fixing Starfield. Hell Bugthesda will probably patch more exploits out before even touching anything on that list. For example the merchants hidden chests have already been relocated. Those scoundrels!!!

The community will fix it before Bethesda does.

 

[Deleted member 197115]

The community will fix it before Bethesda does.

Everything they promised in that letter indeed WAS fixed by the community on day one or two.
As for speed running, finished all missions for all factions, there was literally nothing else time worthy left to do. CP2077 on the other hand, feel I'll be harvesting it for a while.
Steam numbers speak for themselves, looks like CP2077 got a second chance to impress the public.

 

[mcroshaw]

Gotta love the modding community!

 

[Andy Kettler]

Guys pls calm a bit down with that heavy OT

 

[Deleted member 197115]

Guys pls calm a bit down with that heavy OT

Nothing to post about until they fix all the game breaking bugs anyway. LOL
They must have really had some serious deadline crunchtime to release it like that.
But yeah, good call, too much OT.

 

[Deleted member 197115]

List of known issues so far

https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/21456702310931-Known-Issues-Forza-Motorsport

 

[Butthurt_Saddle_sore]

This one is interesting. I have both Fanatec and Thrustmaster firmware installed, I am using a TH8A shifter with my CSL DD setup. I haven't had any issues with the game crashing when I tried to enter a race...

• Stability - Having both Thrustmaster and Fanatec drivers installed and having a Fanatec wheel plugged in can result in a crash when entering a race. (WinStore, Steam) (1571769) (Date Updated: 10.04.23)

I am not seeing anything about general FPS stability and DLSS performance on Mid to low end PCs...

At least they see that Fanatec's Rev lights aren't working right. Woohoo? I guess???

 

[mcroshaw]

I’m not seeing the bug where it doesn’t save your input settings. That is a big annoyance to me although easy to work around. I did see that the matchmaking is broken, hope they fix that asap so all the FH5 players can wreck each other together in the bottom safety rating. I’d also like to see more severe penalties come in.

 

[Deleted member 197115]

Ermz take and his FFB settings

 

[Andy Kettler]

Forza's Best Telemetry Overlay Is Here Already! | Motorsport Plus

0:00 Feature Overview
5:18 Install Guide

ForzaDash Discord: https://discord.gg/gyqBZkfYm6
Sappy's Github: https://github.com/Sappytron/MotorsportPlus/releases
SimHub Download: https://www.simhubdash.com/download-2/


MotorsportPlus 1.0 Latest

Initial Release.

Key Notes:

• Only a 1440p layout and 1080p for second monitor is available. If you have a 1080p or 4K layout as your primary you are willing to share, please reach out.
• Pausing / Rewinding is still an issue and will bug out your Delta tracking until you have completed one full unbroken lap. There is no known fix or solution at this time.
• More features are planned in the future, so let me know what you want to see via the ForzaDash Discord

 

[mcroshaw]

Forza's Best Telemetry Overlay Is Here Already! | Motorsport Plus

0:00 Feature Overview
5:18 Install Guide

ForzaDash Discord: https://discord.gg/gyqBZkfYm6
Sappy's Github: https://github.com/Sappytron/MotorsportPlus/releases
SimHub Download: https://www.simhubdash.com/download-2/


MotorsportPlus 1.0 Latest

Initial Release.

Key Notes:

• Only a 1440p layout and 1080p for second monitor is available. If you have a 1080p or 4K layout as your primary you are willing to share, please reach out.
• Pausing / Rewinding is still an issue and will bug out your Delta tracking until you have completed one full unbroken lap. There is no known fix or solution at this time.
• More features are planned in the future, so let me know what you want to see via the ForzaDash Discord

Damn, this is awesome, but I'm on a G9 so it won't work for me.