F3 Racer Alex Peroni Escapes Huge Monza Shunt Unharmed

[Koen Verlinde]

When gaming physics happen in real life

Seriously, those marshalls man...

 

[Vic Flange]

If they are not going back to grass and gravel then track limit penalties have to be severe.
First off track offence = 10 second penalty.
Second = drive through.
Third = black flag.

 

[David F]

what a great idea to make things more entertaining , giant spring-boards in the run-off areas ,,,,
maybe next year they could add some loop the loop and rings of fire in the run-off areas too , you can hit these for extra points ….

with that said ,,, I'd like to unveil my vision for the 2021 season

 

[ZeldaACFan17]

No. That will never happen.

 

[Ryno917]

I certainly agree that there's nothing wrong with a car spinning as a consequence of a mistake. In this example given the high speed of the corner spinning on a patch of grass will likely result in the car catapulting into the fence.

The car would slide wide, sideways into the tires in this case, most likely. Deeper tire wall and all would probably be fine.

For this corner a better solution would be something that causes the car to lose a few seconds off track and down the following straight. i think a curb or texture to inflict a penalty such as this is more in line with the modern 'tarmac forest' way of F1 tracks than grass/gravel, without implementing expensive electronic systems and throwing a bunch of technology at it.

Disagree whole-heartedly. A curb in this spot is a stupid decision - this crash is proof of that. You should never, ever, put a curb in a spot where a car is likely to pass through at speed. Ever. We've seen many very scary crashes exactly because of these stupid curbs put in stupid spots - again, this crash and that open wheel crash at Spa last year (or the year before?) are evidence of that. Remember: these are all crashes 100% caused by a band-aid measure to prevent abuse of a course feature put in place to increase safety. The problem here is the poor implementation of the course feature, necessitating these sorts of curbs. Keep it simple and you eliminate all of this nonsense.

The texture thing at PR has very little effect, really - it's designed to help slow sliding cars by increasing the friction in those stripes, it does almost nothing to increase rolling resistance of a car still traveling straight. That's not a solution at all. Bottom line, there should not be tarmac runoff immediately beside the racing surface where the racing line is at the edge of the track because it will always be abused. The solution is not to devise some complex penalty system or technology; that's a waste of time and money. Design the circuit properly and you don't need any of that stuff.

If you go off the racing surface you should not be able to simply rejoin losing less than a tenth of a second. Period. Put some grass there, and no driver will abuse the tarmac runoff. No technology needed. No constant monitoring by marshals. No complaining from drivers saying 'so and so cut the track.' No inconsistency from race control that invites controversy and prompts arguments about favoritism. No needless, subjective, penalties determining race results.

If you have to add something to fix a problem caused by adding something, you've screwed up. That's bad design. The old KISS statement rings true: Keep It Simple, Stupid.

 

[jghinkle]

The problem isn't kerbs, or barriers, or gravel traps. Plainly obvious over these last couple weeks it is the outright lack of respect for tack limits from the last generation and a half of drivers. That's why we're where we're at today.