Misc F1 2020 TyreTempMod - Realistic temperature, grip, wear, strategy v1.7

50West · Aug 13, 2020

Did a lot of practice sessions and this was my thoughts:

Medium Tires wear way too fast. I was getting nearly 10% wear per lap - way too high. I would expect that from Softs, but not Mediums.
Front Tire Temperatures skyrocket way too high just after 1 or 2 turns, and then cool insanely drastically (down to the 70s on a straight).
Rear Tires Temperatures were the opposite - they seem impossible to heat up to even normal values and then cool drastically on a straight, even with maxed out Rear Tire Temps in the setup.

The mod seems great if those few issues could be ironed out.

andyandy989898 · Aug 13, 2020

50West said:
Did a lot of practice sessions and this was my thoughts:

Medium Tires wear way too fast. I was getting nearly 10% wear per lap - way too high. I would expect that from Softs, but not Mediums.

Front Tire Temperatures skyrocket way too high just after 1 or 2 turns, and then cool insanely drastically (down to the 70s on a straight).

Rear Tires Temperatures were the opposite - they seem impossible to heat up to even normal values and then cool drastically on a straight, even with maxed out Rear Tire Temps in the setup.

The mod seems great if those few issues could be ironed out.

Great feedback thanks

Can you confirm track and car so I can test.

I have slowed down heating and cooling ( in version not released yet) but I think they should cool over straights. One to prevent overheating and also because they do that due to air cooling.

Thanks

50West · Aug 13, 2020

andyandy989898 said:
Great feedback thanks

Can you confirm track and car so I can test.

I have slowed down heating and cooling ( in version not released yet) but I think they should cool over straights. One to prevent overheating and also because they do that due to air cooling.

Thanks

This was my MyTeam car (season 3) on the China circuit.

I agree they should obviously heat and cool, but on the Softs, for example, they'd skyrocket to 105 after 1 or 2 turns and then cool to 70 on the straight (with setup front tire pressures in the middle). Honestly that might be realistic, but it doesn't make for a good game experience. It makes the car insanely wishy-washy around every corner since you have no idea what to expect.

My hunch is that they'd should heat/cool a max of 10-15 degrees around the circuit at race pace. Right now they are cooling to stone cold temperatures. Like I said, I was hitting 105 through a string of corners, and then on the straight they'd go down to 70s (which then makes it near impossible to steer the car around a tight turn after a straight). Maybe on a straight they should go down to around 90 if they are hitting that high on the corners? I'd say at least cut it in half of what it is now (for cooling).

andyandy989898 · Aug 14, 2020

andyandy989898 updated F1 2020 TyreTempMod with a new update entry:

Tyre Temp Mod v4.0

Improvements on issues from feedback

Better rear grip / more heat
Less wear on softer tyres
Tyres heat more slow
Tyres release heat along straights more slowly

Better tyre strategies for AI/player

Barring any major issues this will be the last version for a while

Thanks and enjoy

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Andrek · Aug 15, 2020

is this mod only for 50 % Races? I tested the mod on 25 % Races , but the KI and me drives only 1 Stops...

Best regards

andyandy989898 · Aug 15, 2020

That sounds about right does it not? Many 50% or 100% races can be 1 stop

andyandy989898 · Aug 15, 2020

andyandy989898 updated F1 2020 TyreTempMod with a new update entry:

Tyre Temp Mod v4.1

Fixed issue the issue in review feedback as only needed a minor change.

C4 and C5 should better work now

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Deleted member 408599 · Aug 16, 2020

Hello, if I copy the file "f1compounds.vcmpd.xml", to F1 2019, will I have a problem? I’ve tried it and apparently it works fine... but I wouldn’t know exactly. Greetings!!!

50West · Aug 16, 2020

Arturo Pardos said:
Hello, if I copy the file "f1compounds.vcmpd.xml", to F1 2019, will I have a problem? I’ve tried it and apparently it works fine... but I wouldn’t know exactly. Greetings!!!

I'm pretty sure there is a dedicated 2019 version.

Deleted member 408599 · Aug 16, 2020

50West said:
I'm pretty sure there is a dedicated 2019 version.

Hello, there is. But I don’t know if this is better because there was more feedback from more users.

50West · Aug 16, 2020

Arturo Pardos said:
Hello, there is. But I don’t know if this is better because there was more feedback from more users.

I'd bet the 2019 version has been more vetted. The 2020 version has only been out a few days.

andyandy989898 · Aug 16, 2020

andyandy989898 updated F1 2020 TyreTempMod with a new update entry:

Tyre Temp Mod v4.1A

Small update that might not be for everyone

Greater wear means when now 1 stopping you will have to take tyres to 65%-75% of life to make it work. I didn't like that at moment I could 1 stop and tyres would still be at 50% at pit window.
Makes 2 stop more of a better option if hard on tyres.

If happy with current wear rates then ignore this A version.

Thanks

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andyandy989898 · Aug 16, 2020

Arturo Pardos said:
Hello, if I copy the file "f1compounds.vcmpd.xml", to F1 2019, will I have a problem? I’ve tried it and apparently it works fine... but I wouldn’t know exactly. Greetings!!!

Need to copy the .ERP file not the XML.

There is a new section in the 2020 file so not sure how it will effect it. You might find the cars are different in 2019 so it won't feel the same. Worth a go though. Let me know if it works and I'll update the 2019 version

50West · Aug 16, 2020

andyandy989898 said:
andyandy989898 updated F1 2020 TyreTempMod with a new update entry:

Tyre Temp Mod v4.1A

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I like this. I haven't had a chance to try your new update since my comments. As long as the tire temperatures still aren't swinging wildly over the course of the lap I think it'll be in a good spot!

Deleted member 408599 · Aug 16, 2020

andyandy989898 said:
Need to copy the .ERP file not the XML.

There is a new section in the 2020 file so not sure how it will effect it. You might find the cars are different in 2019 so it won't feel the same. Worth a go though. Let me know if it works and I'll update the 2019 version

In F1 2019 I had the problem that the tyres were getting cold very soon and it was difficult to drive... I overwritten the XML numbers for F1 2020 V 4.1 , and moved them to F1 2019... And IT’S AMAZING!! The tires feel right at the point of heat/cold. It’s a blast. One of the best Mod to change the driving to more realistic. 10/10 Why not do this CM?

It is very laborious to pass the numbers, if you want ERP of 2019, and you check it...

andyandy989898 · Aug 17, 2020

Arturo Pardos said:
In F1 2019 I had the problem that the tyres were getting cold very soon and it was difficult to drive... I overwritten the XML numbers for F1 2020 V 4.1 , and moved them to F1 2019... And IT’S AMAZING!! The tires feel right at the point of heat/cold. It’s a blast. One of the best Mod to change the driving to more realistic. 10/10 Why not do this CM?

It is very laborious to pass the numbers, if you want ERP of 2019, and you check it...

So you copied the data out of the 2020 xml and pasted into 2019 xml and exported that back into the 2019 ERP file?

andyandy989898 · Aug 17, 2020

On another topic, If anyone has any knowledge of file encryption I am looking for some help with another mod. The file containing the data seems to be encrypted and I have had no luck being able to read it.

Thanks

Andy

Deleted member 408599 · Aug 17, 2020

andyandy989898 said:
So you copied the data out of the 2020 xml and pasted into 2019 xml and exported that back into the 2019 ERP file?

Hello, not exactly. F1 2020 XML is a bit different... Just change the numbers you made for F1 2020, and I added 1x1 to the XML for f1 2019. It works perfectly, and I think it works just like F1 2020. The temperature doesn’t drop very fast on straight lines, and it’s more balanced. About the encrypted file, ask JBuron -he’s a good guy. Greetings!!!

andyandy989898 · Aug 17, 2020

Gotcha, I was going to say if you pasted everything across then it might cause issues as files are different.

Copying my changes over 1 X 1 must have been fun .

Thanks for info on help with file

Deleted member 408599 · Aug 17, 2020

andyandy989898 said:
Gotcha, I was going to say if you pasted everything across then it might cause issues as files are different.

Copying my changes over 1 X 1 must have been fun .

Thanks for info on help with file

Jajajajajaj, it was a lot of work... I think it took an hour. But it was worth it. If you want I pass the file and review it ( it will always be easier than return has to do so).