I'm surprised the video is only five minutes in length.
Debate: Should Vettel Leave Ferrari?
- Thread starter Paul Jeffrey
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Vettel has never had a teammate to challenge him, and he had very little challenge from anyone during his Red Bull days. This is why I am of the mindset that if he had competition from inside, and outside the team things might have turned out very different for his current career records. I don't think that Ferrari will give him the time that he needs to figure out how to challenge himself, or other drivers. They are a desperate team, who are desperate for results.
Nobody can work Vettel like Lewis does, but I actually wouldn't mind seeing the two of them at Mercedes racing and competing together.
Nobody can work Vettel like Lewis does, but I actually wouldn't mind seeing the two of them at Mercedes racing and competing together.
hotlapping ISN'T RACING. as a sim racer you should know the difference is huge. i'm not a good hotlapper but i have many podium and 1st places.Didn't the Top Gear TV programme do essentially this, but in a reasonably-priced car? And didn't Vettel come out on top?
wombat999
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Vettel needs to get it together or retire, perhaps a psychologist might (just might) be able to get inside his head and exorcise the Hamilton Demon.
He can't step down to a lesser team, which might actually be a good move, even if he takes a financial hit doing so. Hamilton won't have him at MB, and Hamilton isn't moving while his obscene 'salary' continues to flow and he soaks up the spotlight. Vettel needs to either suck it up, find a lesser team where the pressure is not so high, or just retire. I don't like the man but he is a decent enough operator, if he stays at FIAT the pressure from his highly competitive young team mate should be an incentive for him to perform.
He can't step down to a lesser team, which might actually be a good move, even if he takes a financial hit doing so. Hamilton won't have him at MB, and Hamilton isn't moving while his obscene 'salary' continues to flow and he soaks up the spotlight. Vettel needs to either suck it up, find a lesser team where the pressure is not so high, or just retire. I don't like the man but he is a decent enough operator, if he stays at FIAT the pressure from his highly competitive young team mate should be an incentive for him to perform.
You seriously think I was comparing F1 racing with ragging a family saloon around an old aerodrome? Really? You do know what humour is, right?
Dux
Simracer since 99 / 3D Engineer & Game Developer
No one can tell mate
for one I doubt he will just like that give up and retire, and Mick as much as I would love to, he is far away from a seat in a FerrariWell Danny Ric comprehensively beat him in his first year at red bull.
Vettel hated the new car and the changes that took place. He was never comfortable with the car at all in 2014. The turbo-hybrid era has really been tough for him.
Hes had a good ride in F1. But i am afraid he keeps upsetting the rule makers Liberty Media. (Damaging a weigh scale for the car in Monaco, A mouve in Montreal and Tantrum) No other team will take him on. Its time to go do other things.
I hear Jean Tod's contract is almost up. But like many drivers they don't like politics.
I hear Jean Tod's contract is almost up. But like many drivers they don't like politics.
Driving F1 just of the driving itself, is not satisfying. So if Vettel will not win any races this year, and will be the same next season, i think he will/should retire. At the moment u can only win the championship with a Mercedes and i think this will not change in the next few years. Perhaps this could be a sign to F1, if drivers like Vettel retire because of this boringness, this could change something in their minds.
Let's wait to see if Mick is up to the job. Right now, he's average in F2. Let's give him another season in F2, then maybe a seat at Alfa Romeo in 2021... Maybe.
Only if he trades places with Verstappen. If Verstappen stays at Red Bull, I'm afraid Vettel's star will pale even more.
Sometimes good drivers have some extended bad form. It can last more than a few races.
A forgotten fact : Kivyat beat Ricardo in 2015 quite clearly.
They won't be giving up on SV any time soon.
A forgotten fact : Kivyat beat Ricardo in 2015 quite clearly.
They won't be giving up on SV any time soon.
It's down to both the team and the driver to make the best of their relationship. In this case, Sebastian is a driver who has showed what he's capable of. When Vettel joined, Ferrari was the team that prevented Alonso from being a world champion. Car wise, they're usually 3rd best, they haven't improved one bit.
Vettel is yet a very young man.
He is in a top team... as teams go.
I'd only advocate he take a break IF he is no longer enjoying F1.
It is extremely difficult to take any time off and come back better.
Few drivers have done that....and none successfully in the hybrid era.
He is still very good.
Some folks become overly critical when these guys make mistakes.
Need I remind you of what it is they do?
He is in a top team... as teams go.
I'd only advocate he take a break IF he is no longer enjoying F1.
It is extremely difficult to take any time off and come back better.
Few drivers have done that....and none successfully in the hybrid era.
He is still very good.
Some folks become overly critical when these guys make mistakes.
Need I remind you of what it is they do?
