Schumi's fault on the start, you can't bloody go 3 wide at Monaco... The exact same happened in GP2. You can't put your nose everywhere, even if there is in theory a gap.
2012 Formula One Monaco Grand Prix
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A few thougts on the race-
Passing - It's Monaco, so there isn't much racing, it's all about qualifying and surviving. Proof is the train stuck behind Heiki. Eventually, Button can't take it any more, presses the issue and ruins both their races
. Perez only gets by because Heiki has damage, and was lucky to have the chance after spinning trying to pass earlier. If a car wasn't damaged or conceding, you can't pass.
L1 - Everyone knows how narrow the track gets going into T1, wasn't MS a bit optomistic trying to gain positions around the outside there? Grosjean was avoiding the Ferari. There was nothing he could do but move left, squeezing MS. MS gambled and ended up someplace where he shouldn't have been IMO.
Rain -I'im so glad the rain didn't come! RBR had a perfect strategy, given their cars' qually positions. Dry - Weber wins; Wet - Finger Boy wins.
Way to go MW, your a Monaco maven!
Passing - It's Monaco, so there isn't much racing, it's all about qualifying and surviving. Proof is the train stuck behind Heiki. Eventually, Button can't take it any more, presses the issue and ruins both their races
. Perez only gets by because Heiki has damage, and was lucky to have the chance after spinning trying to pass earlier. If a car wasn't damaged or conceding, you can't pass. L1 - Everyone knows how narrow the track gets going into T1, wasn't MS a bit optomistic trying to gain positions around the outside there? Grosjean was avoiding the Ferari. There was nothing he could do but move left, squeezing MS. MS gambled and ended up someplace where he shouldn't have been IMO.
Rain -I'im so glad the rain didn't come! RBR had a perfect strategy, given their cars' qually positions. Dry - Weber wins; Wet - Finger Boy wins.
Way to go MW, your a Monaco maven!
They have a hole in the bodywork that Ferrari Mclaren and Mercedes feels is illegal.
just in front of the rear tire.
Yeah but look at the places he gained... I know taking the road was necessary I'm not arguing that, but why can he keep the places? The Stewards investigated it and saw nothing which is don't get at all.
Xosé Estrada
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Instead of telling Alonso to let Massa they told Massa to back off
Yes, that's why he finished 4th right behind Alo... Oh wait.
Alonso was saving tyres, when he decided to push, he made 3 consecutive fastest laps and get right behind Hamilton and seconds away from Massa.
EDIT: I just feel bad for the way I wrote it, I'm very happy to see Massa in better shape and I would love to see him win again.
He was already ahead of Kimi and MS, but Grosjeans car forced him to cut the corner, if it s not there, he would be behind Massa without the cut.
I'm gunna show you the same picture I sent my friend who claimed the same thing.
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/1338/spacevx.png
If you can't hold a line in F1, you shouldn't be there. Schumacher gave him a lot of space, his wheels were right against the wall. Grosjean did not have to force Schumacher into the wall like that as you can see.
P.S. It was 4 wide
Schumi was holding his line, nothing wrong with that. There was space for all the cars there, but Grosjean decided to "dance" around on his spot. Nothing against him, he just lacks experience. He did something similar at Melbourne.
Whitmarsh post race interview sounded so horrible, made me
Xosé Estrada
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I don't think MSC did anything wrong either... most of us as simracers should have at least an impression of how difficult it is to manage that narrow spaces and moving cars.
TBH, Really funny
Grosjean was already touching wheels with Alonso. He HAD to move to the left.
It was a normal racing incident, get over it.
It was a normal racing incident, get over it.
Doesn't change the fact that you just shouldn't go there. Yes Grosjean swerved, but even if he hadn't no way Schumi would have got away with it. T1 tightens.I'm gunna show you the same picture I sent my friend who claimed the same thing.
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/1338/spacevx.png
If you can't hold a line in F1, you shouldn't be there. Schumacher gave him a lot of space, his wheels were right against the wall. Grosjean did not have to force Schumacher into the wall like that as you can see.
P.S. It was 4 wide
You can't hold your line going into t1, someone has to yield and MS was behind.
The ARMCO juts out onto the race track and narrows the entry into T1. Even if RG stays a little farther right, MS would still run out of room. Too ambitious of MS taking that line.
The ARMCO juts out onto the race track and narrows the entry into T1. Even if RG stays a little farther right, MS would still run out of room. Too ambitious of MS taking that line.
LOL
Keep getting ninja'd by Will as we're making the same point.
Keep getting ninja'd by Will as we're making the same point.
IMHO Grosjean overreacted when moving away from Alonso and went way too far right (the picture posted a while ago is clear). In an instant, MS had his front tyre between RG's and the wall at the other side. He could not yield even if he wanted, had nowhere to go.
Moreover and watching the replay, it was rear RG tyre jumping over MS's front. So he was yielding.
(0.34 onwards)
Schumi backed out to late.
I envy (and surely Schumi too) your superfast reflexes and/or foresight. Are you serious?
At the same time you blame Grosjeran with superfast reflexes, becasue he moved in a splitsecond 10cm to much?
Schumi knew that his gap is starting to disappear just because of the track layout. It tightens on the way to T1.
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