Windows 11 Upgrade?

[Neilski]

After a few minutes, it'll take a few seconds and will ask for my pin.

Yeah, one of the registry keys has a name that seems linked to that behaviour (but it doesn't work at all for me...).

You could perhaps check the system sleep states in cmd with powercfg /a. These work in conjunction with (sometimes manufacturer specific) BIOS sleep/power settings.

Yeah, I tried that, and the laptop does support the "Modern Standby" S0 state, with (IIRC) most of the others disabled because of this.
Funnily enough, my work laptop (which is a Dell) was behaving really badly in Win10 last year because of the "Connected Standby" version of Modern Standby, which was a total bag of crap - amazingly, it had all the downsides of sleeping (e.g. the VPN would immediately fall over if the lid was closed) and yet none of the upsides (battery consumption while "suspended" was terrible, fan would run with lid closed, so laptop would get really hot in my bag ). I eventually had to request admin rights to disable the connected standby entirely and it has behaved rather better since then. So yeah, can't say I'm a fan of this new-fangled thing but I now see that there's a disconnected version of Modern Standby. Must read more about that...

 

[Terry Rock]

Anyone getting frame drops in VR specifically with 24H2 KB5044384 (OS Build 26100.2161) Preview

How'd you even get it to work?

 

[Christopher E]

How'd you even get it to work?

So far VR has been running fine, other than the frame drops. What issues are you having?
I tried the Quest3 and PSVR2 and both work.

 

[RasmusP]

So far VR has been running fine, other than the frame drops. What issues are you having?
I tried the Quest3 and PSVR2 and both work.

WMR - Windows Mixed Reality got deleted from 24H2. So VR Headsets like the HP G2 can't be used anymore

 

[Christopher E]

WMR - Windows Mixed Reality got deleted from 24H2. So VR Headsets like the HP G2 can't be used anymore

Ah that sucks! Are you able to revert build?

 

[Terry Rock]

Ah that sucks! Are you able to revert build?

During my 'trial' I chose to keep the 'old' build, so I just used a restore point and rolled back.
I won't be upgrading to 24H2 without it having WMR support or some type of third-party work-around.
It was not smart to lock out WMR users.
I'm certainly not just going to throw my headset into the trash and go buy a new one.
I love that feature for simracing...especially when coupled with Open Composite and OpenXR.
I've had massive success, with even my much maligned Intel ARC A770 running extremely smoothly at a reprojected 45fps with big grids.

 

[Christopher E]

During my 'trial' I chose to keep the 'old' build, so I just used a restore point and rolled back.
I won't be upgrading to 24H2 without it having WMR support or some type of third-party work-around.
It was not smart to lock out WMR users.
I'm certainly not just going to throw my headset into the trash and go buy a new one.
I love that feature for simracing...especially when coupled with Open Composite and OpenXR.
I've had massive success, with even my much maligned Intel ARC A770 running extremely smoothly at a reprojected 45fps with big grids.

Absolutely love my G2 still have it! Can't understand the thinking at Microsoft on these things, baffling.

 

[RasmusP]

It's not an active "let's kill the feature" thing. 24H2 is basically a completely fresh Windows and they probably would need to rewrite a lot of the WMD stuff and decided it wouldn't be worth it.
A big shame anyway, but a bit of a different perspective.

 

[GEO147]

It's a disgrace. Companies developed and sold expensive equipment to customers who purchased in good faith and expectations that they would be able to use the device for a reasonable period given the financial outlay.
It should be straight to the high court and a slam dunk case in my view.

That's my perspective.

 

[Terry Rock]

It's a disgrace. Companies developed and sold expensive equipment to customers who purchased in good faith and expectations that they would be able to use the device for a reasonable period given the financial outlay.
It should be straight to the high court and a slam dunk case in my view.

That's my perspective.

As long as they don't scupper my option to stay on Win11 (23H2) I don't care what they do.
I'm not going to insist they change or re-write their software for my benefit.
It would have been nice to assist a third party to continue with the feature though, given the perspective loss to clients.

 

[GEO147]

As long as they don't scupper my option to stay on Win11 (23H2) I don't care what they do.
I'm not going to insist they change or re-write their software for my benefit.
It would have been nice to assist a third party to continue with the feature though, given the perspective loss to clients.

We have 1 year then the G2 etc is for the bin.

 

[Durge Driven]

So no ESU for Home/Pro ?
Time to start saving for that new PC if you going to need it.

 

[RasmusP]

What I would understand:
Don't make it a priority and only get wmr running, when the support for 23H2 stops.

 

[ttracehead]

My first post. Amd chipset update fail. AMD driver 32.0.11027.1003 lost my wifi connection. Rz616 wi-fi 6e 160mhz this device cannot start (code 10). version Motherboard msi MAG-X670E-TOMAHAWK-WIFI. Amd 7800 3d, nvidia 4090.

Problem solved installed msi download page chipset drivers again. Version 6.10.22.027 Release date 2024-11-05.
Windows update for this driver rz616...
Version: 3.4.0.1046 date: 11.6.2024. Current driver older msi version 3.3.0.595 date: 24.6.2022 work now. Windows 11 Home 23H2.

Happy update

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[Botmeister]

As long as they don't scupper my option to stay on Win11 (23H2) I don't care what they do.
I'm not going to insist they change or re-write their software for my benefit.
It would have been nice to assist a third party to continue with the feature though, given the perspective loss to clients.

You can limit the feature update to 23h2 with a group policy called Target Feature Update Version. Only works for Pro, Enterprise and Edu.

 

[Redvaliant]

I have done this very process to stay on Win 11 23H2. I thought about keeping a dedicated Win10 install to allow another year of WMR and G2 use, but I have two installs of Win11 instead: one for WMR, and a clean, lean install for future use that I'll eventually migrate over to. MS are the worst for abandoning perfectly good software.

 

[CRMS]

I'm W11 23H2 and it has been fine.
Came across an issue though. I'm using a USB 5.1 soundcard to drive 5 shakers - 4 wheels and back of seat.
When first plugged in the sound card was only showing 2 channels in SimHub. I couldn't find anything in W11 System - Sound settings to configure the sound card for all the outputs. I eventually recalled legacy windows Control Panel and now an app. In CP Sound there was exactly the Configure options I was looking for. So now 5.1 and 6 channels available for SimHub. More little amplifiers required!!

 

[Durge Driven]

I think with prices of middle of the road M2 / Sata that OSes should not be a issue.

If I wanted W10 and W11 and special VR version I would just use 3 smallish SSD and enable/disable in bios as required leaving all other existing drive partitions as is.

Personally I only buy retail OSes that have no conditions other then registering with Bill.
Here you get Gen4 500GB and retail Pro W10/11 from Gamer' Outlet for $70AU / 50US
Sata combo $60AU / 40US

 

[Durge Driven]

Moved my 3 towers to 24H2 now but like I said with registered versions of all OS I can go back to W10 on any of them. I was shown one message in MS account that said something like to swap to W11 click here.
That was just some sort of bug in my case, my MS account has all my W10/W11 still.

Threads like this must be talking purely about updating windows not installing retail versions.

W11 automatically downloading AFTER rollback to W10 | Microsoft Community Hub

I'm pulling my hair out here. I "upgraded" to W11 on launch day, but use a Ryzen CPU. Obviously performance issues on my generation of CPU are well known...

techcommunity.microsoft.com

Why would these peeps just not buy 2 retail versions from Gamers Outlet cost 30 bucks. ( shakes head ) Only obstacle I can think of is some may need to zero write their SSDs with parted magic.

BTW If you read anything in Google about zero writing shortening SSD life. ....bs
I zero wrote 60GB SSDs hundreds of times they both still work and are 10+ years old.

 

[Durge Driven]

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