From my experience that is changing a bit, people are getting more refined when it comes to "gaming" and the simulation world is growing very fast. Of course GAMES will allways sell millions because they're made for entertainment purposes only, kids or ignorants will allways fill that market (the majority), but there's something changing about those people that are in the middle. If you look for real motorsport fans aged above 30 for sure they're looking for realism more than ever...
Who Was Your Sim Racing Developer of the Year?
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From my experience that is changing a bit, people are getting more refined when it comes to "gaming" and the simulation world is growing very fast. Of course GAMES will allways sell millions because they're made for entertainment purposes only, kids or ignorants will allways fill that market (the majority), but there's something changing about those people that are in the middle. If you look for real motorsport fans aged above 30 for sure they're looking for realism more than ever...
So,... for how long is the Poll open?
Racing doesn't seem to be too popular in general. Am I right that Assetto Corsa is the most popular racing game in steam now ?
The most popular things in games seems to be very good online experience, and good single player. AC for example wasn't even developed with great depth for online, as far as I remember Stefano has said once that they never expected AC to get very popular so they didn't spend a lot of resources for online. It was modded great deal by community - RSR livetiming plus SRS alone made AC 2x more attractive. It also was the best time time when community servers like ALOOG and STREETFIGHT were big. Right now leagues is also big drive for AC, here in Lithuania there is one big big league which has 100-50 participants, and it is Lithuania, who even knows what Lithuania is ?
Now in rFactor2 online is nearly not existing, apart leagues. I have not raced online in rF2 yet, just had practice session online once and was really hooked. If with new UI rF2 gets online traction, then I can see rF2 players count increasing by 100%, also if rF2 would get enter to SimRacingSystem and get something equivalent to RSR livetiming then it would be big big deal.
The most popular things in games seems to be very good online experience, and good single player. AC for example wasn't even developed with great depth for online, as far as I remember Stefano has said once that they never expected AC to get very popular so they didn't spend a lot of resources for online. It was modded great deal by community - RSR livetiming plus SRS alone made AC 2x more attractive. It also was the best time time when community servers like ALOOG and STREETFIGHT were big. Right now leagues is also big drive for AC, here in Lithuania there is one big big league which has 100-50 participants, and it is Lithuania, who even knows what Lithuania is ?
Now in rFactor2 online is nearly not existing, apart leagues. I have not raced online in rF2 yet, just had practice session online once and was really hooked. If with new UI rF2 gets online traction, then I can see rF2 players count increasing by 100%, also if rF2 would get enter to SimRacingSystem and get something equivalent to RSR livetiming then it would be big big deal.
Maybe it is time to promote this vote in rF2 forum ?
I go often on several forums around the internet, about lots of games/sims, and i didn't saw any advertisement to this poll! And, let's be honest... that would be just stupid!
This is not new, but there are much more sim racers than before, and they are willing to spend money in their hobby. If it wasn't the case the current developpers would stop developping titles and there won't be so much costly wheels and rigs available.
Simplified titles have always been a huge thing before and will be. The "hardcore" community has always been needing them, they bring attention on the racing genre in general and during many years they have provided content to the more advanced sims by content conversion. Rfactor or gtr2 or race07 would not be the same without all the great conversions from the toca race series. Sim racing will die the day the less advanced titles will die. There is no conflict between them. What may kills the genre is the conflicting spirit of the simracing community, each sim racer being a physics guru and a mechanic and aerodynamic expert, calling other games, he is not competent with, garbage or simcade. But on the positive side it means that simracers have the choice between sufficient titles for everyone.
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Well the Crew2 has the same amount of people connected than AC currently
... But in 6 months I'm pretty sure it won't be the case anymore.F1 2018 has less users but with 10 times less content. I doubt AC's F1 content has more users than F1 2018.
It's hard to state AC is the most popular. It needs more refinement. As a general sim with modding capabilities, it is more popular than others. As a racing title, I'm not sure, codemasters main market is console racers. Gran turismo, pcars2 on console, AC on console, these figures are missing
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Regardless, the biggest progress during this year was made by the Studio 397.
Also big respect for this russian guy Ilja Jusupov, who with his content embarrasses developers from AC
Also big respect for this russian guy Ilja Jusupov, who with his content embarrasses developers from AC
Dan Costa
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You are perplexed because you are not informed about it
Anyway i don't blame you, some people only know how to drive a car, not how it behaves/how everything works...
Dan Costa
World Champ Procrastination n' Hoarding Series
You are perplexed because you are not informed about it
Anyway i don't blame you, some people only know how to drive a car, not how it behaves/how everything works...
Well, I did say I wasn't voting on physics
Well, I did say I wasn't voting on physics
It's supposed to vote for the developer who did the most valuable work, if your experience was that bad with rF2 maybe you should understand the huge task Studio397 has in hands and why 490 people voted on it
No problem mate, just don't be perplexed on something you don't know anything about! It also depends on what your "regular expectations" are! Anyway it's not the purpose of the voting. Cheers!
Sigh @ all the people with negative responses to this.
I was wondering what in particular made it the worst experience?
Your issues may have a fix, or may affect other people and may be in the pipeline for fixing/improving by the devs, already.
Dan Costa
World Champ Procrastination n' Hoarding Series
Just User Interface type of stuff.
Formula E 'Gen2' Teased for rFactor 2
People who only use it to race with AI, RD leagues or with specific groups, probably avoid most of the issues.
Easily Kunos. Why?...
They're the only developer that really developed anything. When 90% of updates are just bug fixes or pumping out more cars and tracks, well, that for me is not simracing development and that's what the majority of simracing devs have done. However, if you look at Kunos' development with ACC, there are lots of actual simulation developments regarding simracing physics - aerodynamics modeling and all sorts of other physics elements have been developed into ACC.
Having said that, I am thankful for, and appreciate, all dev's updates regardless (eg. Reiza with AMS, and Sector3 with R3E).
They're the only developer that really developed anything. When 90% of updates are just bug fixes or pumping out more cars and tracks, well, that for me is not simracing development and that's what the majority of simracing devs have done. However, if you look at Kunos' development with ACC, there are lots of actual simulation developments regarding simracing physics - aerodynamics modeling and all sorts of other physics elements have been developed into ACC.
Having said that, I am thankful for, and appreciate, all dev's updates regardless (eg. Reiza with AMS, and Sector3 with R3E).
