Vettel vs Alonso: 2012 Formula One WDC (UPDATE)
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I respect your statement But seriously Lewis Lost this Championship due to Mistakes of Team and Bad luck.I'm not too good at maths so I'll refrain from making a statement.
I really thought it was this year but every thing went wrong
kelaroost
@Simberia
Things like this give this 3rd world title a bitter taist.
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2012/...ain-and-monaco-wins-but-forced-to-modify-car/
Allso it seems germans love to cheat (they have a history)
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2012/...ain-and-monaco-wins-but-forced-to-modify-car/
Allso it seems germans love to cheat (they have a history)
Why? Vettel's passes were all perfectly legal.
And while what Ferrari did in Austin was perfectly legal, it's more morally incorrect than anything Red Bull have done, ever.
kelaroost
@Simberia
Having hole in the floor to push exhaust gassed into the defuser is banned, red bull ignored this but still held onto the points they gained with a banned design during bahrain and monoco.
They dont deserve to win the world title.
And ferrari swapping the driver was a tactic not a design of the car.
They dont deserve to win the world title.
And ferrari swapping the driver was a tactic not a design of the car.
Plato once cheated during a card game some 2400 years ago. All Greek must be cheaters as they have a history.
James Hemp
Green Devils Racing
Sky released an article today but I don't quite understand what they are talking about here:
When did the FIA release this? After or before Ferrari's appeal?
And the part which I bolded sounds preety childish...
When did the FIA release this? After or before Ferrari's appeal?
And the part which I bolded sounds preety childish...
Was mentioned a few times already in the comments Alex (with wrong sources though). But FIA mentioned it exclusively to Autosport here: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/104644
James Hemp
Green Devils Racing
Thanks Bram. I wasn't sure which happened first - Ferrari's appeal or FIA's refusal to analyse any further incidents.
From the looks both of them are Happened in identical time.
Oh come on, stop hating. Vettel won, period. Reasons don't matter. Hating like that will surely not aid the reputation of Alonso and his fans.
On a side-note: I'm German and this must mean I cheat all the time. Thanks for that!
Well, not that hard to win a title with four cars on the grid (or even more). I will never understand this, and why is nobody talking about that?
It's clear that the TR team is not racing the Red Bulls. Just imagine Sauber would do the same with the Ferraris. Incredible!
In fact just look back to Monza.
And the childish behavior of Helmut Marco. Everybody is against us blalblalballba. Can't hear that anymore.
It's the F1 damn! The teams were fighting, Red Bull was not even a company!
I am not a Ferrari fan but the Bulls are still not grown up enough for the F1 fights.
Just look back what happend in the F1 history, the fights which where written.
The incident between Senna and Vettel, oh my gosh. They have seen Sennas fault there. **§%%&§
Take a look at this incident and the incident between Schumacher and Jacques Villeneuve in 1997!
Arghhg i am off here. lol
It's clear that the TR team is not racing the Red Bulls. Just imagine Sauber would do the same with the Ferraris. Incredible!
In fact just look back to Monza.
And the childish behavior of Helmut Marco. Everybody is against us blalblalballba. Can't hear that anymore.
It's the F1 damn! The teams were fighting, Red Bull was not even a company!
I am not a Ferrari fan but the Bulls are still not grown up enough for the F1 fights.
Just look back what happend in the F1 history, the fights which where written.
The incident between Senna and Vettel, oh my gosh. They have seen Sennas fault there. **§%%&§
Take a look at this incident and the incident between Schumacher and Jacques Villeneuve in 1997!
Arghhg i am off here. lol
About Sauber: Ferrari did, in fact, ask Sauber to move over for them like 10 years or so ago. I don't know which race that was, sorry. :/
About Senna: yes, it was clearly Vettels fault but I think some camera angles aren't available when the race is still going. That's the only explanation I have for not getting that replay right away for everyone to see that it wasn't Senna who's been at fault in that situation.
Ten years ago there were no regulations about a cooperation between 2 teems.
Now the gear box is the only thing where it is allowed to work together.
Hello!! They are moaning about TEAM ORDERS!!!
Stop me now please
Ten years ago there were no regulations about a cooperation between 2 teems.
Now the gear box is the only thing where it is allowed to work together.
Hello!! They are moaning about TEAM ORDERS!!!
Stop me now please
Team orders were actually prohibited from 2003 on until 2011. Now, does someone remember which incident caused the FIA to change their mind? Exactly, the 2002 race in Spielberg when Ferrari told Barrichello to slow down and hand the win to Schumacher.
Not the same race but here's some footage from how Ferrari used to give team orders.
