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Matt Alpeter
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Matt Alpeter
very nice Yves!!
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Matt Alpeter
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Matt Alpeter
updated my league skin to reflect my new job 
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Ian Landry
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Ian Landry
Good to know, thanks Yves!
I don't know how soon i'll be able to get back to racing, but looking forward to it. Though I'm worried that with all the dedication I see when I get the time to lurk in here once in awhile, you guys are getting way too good!!
BTW Yves, did you get a G25 (as you were planning)?
Ian
I don't know how soon i'll be able to get back to racing, but looking forward to it. Though I'm worried that with all the dedication I see when I get the time to lurk in here once in awhile, you guys are getting way too good!!
BTW Yves, did you get a G25 (as you were planning)?
Ian
Ian i'm getting it on the 19th :dance2:
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Matt Alpeter
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Matt Alpeter
Grats!!
Grats to Marcel (twice!), Marty, Chris, Mitch, Keith, Tim, and Willi for forum awards and runners up!!
http://forum.racedepartment.com/new...ent-forum-awards-2008-winners.html#post233068
Grats to Marcel (twice!), Marty, Chris, Mitch, Keith, Tim, and Willi for forum awards and runners up!!
http://forum.racedepartment.com/new...ent-forum-awards-2008-winners.html#post233068
Grats to all the guy's that have been nominated and for those who won :good:
Grats
NAGT is great and the GP 1979 mod is quite good. Champ cars are good too.
New drivers welcome to NA racing!
Hi drivers!
Just thought I would plug in some thoughts about developing new members and drivers here in the NA community. There was a lengthy thread about this but I cannot seem to find it anywhere! Since it seemd to be a off topic discussion from the original, I thought I'd give it some space here!
My background in this topic is actually a bit unique and I think well qualified to help on the subject.
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1. I was a race driving instructor / HPDE instructor for 10 years.
2. I was a club officer/developer for a virtual yacht club for USA players of a worldwide sailing sim.
The discussion about getting new members involved and staying here and enjoying the NA events is VERY important. The learning curve is rather steep in race driving, and being in over your head can really make you feel hopelessly slow and curb enjoyment.
We used to host weekly events and had huge rookie threads for them to browse to help with all the instrumentation, race stratgey, start tactics etc. BUt we also ran our events for rookies with certain parameters plugged in to help them get results and confidence more easily.
I think you should do this here as well!
To learn race craft you must first learn to drive properly. At HDPE events there was always a few guy that would show up in a HUGE street performance car for their very first track experiece. Yeah a nice little C5 VEtte Z06 comes o mind. And these guys would struggle to get used to the line, braking, cornering balance, and traffic on the track because they were "BEHIND" the car. this means the car is WAY faster than your skill and you are reacting late and slow for the next corner or task.
Same thing applies here by 5 fold. Graphics sharpness/drawing speed all conspire against a rookie driver in a BIG car in the game. Consider rookie MINI races! Easy to drive. easy to manage a new track. easy to set up. there is a reason why at a real racing school, you get the sedan/saloon car first! then when you show reasonable skill you get the real deal.
Small cars help you to learn how to maintain momentum, really hit you marks on the track and the top speeds are not brutally fast or dangerous until you get very skilled as a pilot.
If you are a rookie in this game and are trying to learn a WTCC car in forced cockpit view, well GOOD LUCK to ya son! your gonna spend a ton of time getting pulled from gravel traps, tire barriers and agricultural areas!
Track familiarity is another essential component to driving BIG cars well. If your going to move up in class, you had BETTER know that track blind my friend! It's all going to come at you faster and hurtling down a straight trying to remember what corner complex awaits you is a bad sign and you'll be keeping the corner workers really busy!
The small/medium courses in this game are excellent! Brands Hatch Indy,Brands hatch, Monza are excellent learning tracks. Simple and quick laps are a key to rookie success I believe.
Finally how about tutoring via teamspeak? Since you can sit in anyones car and ride along, wouldn't this be possible? I did it for a long time IRL and a calm voice reminding you of your sins during a lap is always a huge key to building confidence and speed! We used Team Speak all the time in the Sailing Sim and it was a great tool and already widely available at RD right?
So this is my outline to help build the community and help new members lierally get up to speed! A simple weekly or bi weekly event in easy to drive cars on manageable tracks w/ a friendly angel in your ear just might get those new guys to stay on track.
feel free to expand the discussion and content of a possible program.
Hope this helps in some small way!
Hi drivers!
Just thought I would plug in some thoughts about developing new members and drivers here in the NA community. There was a lengthy thread about this but I cannot seem to find it anywhere! Since it seemd to be a off topic discussion from the original, I thought I'd give it some space here!
My background in this topic is actually a bit unique and I think well qualified to help on the subject.
.
1. I was a race driving instructor / HPDE instructor for 10 years.
2. I was a club officer/developer for a virtual yacht club for USA players of a worldwide sailing sim.
The discussion about getting new members involved and staying here and enjoying the NA events is VERY important. The learning curve is rather steep in race driving, and being in over your head can really make you feel hopelessly slow and curb enjoyment.
We used to host weekly events and had huge rookie threads for them to browse to help with all the instrumentation, race stratgey, start tactics etc. BUt we also ran our events for rookies with certain parameters plugged in to help them get results and confidence more easily.
I think you should do this here as well!
To learn race craft you must first learn to drive properly. At HDPE events there was always a few guy that would show up in a HUGE street performance car for their very first track experiece. Yeah a nice little C5 VEtte Z06 comes o mind. And these guys would struggle to get used to the line, braking, cornering balance, and traffic on the track because they were "BEHIND" the car. this means the car is WAY faster than your skill and you are reacting late and slow for the next corner or task.
Same thing applies here by 5 fold. Graphics sharpness/drawing speed all conspire against a rookie driver in a BIG car in the game. Consider rookie MINI races! Easy to drive. easy to manage a new track. easy to set up. there is a reason why at a real racing school, you get the sedan/saloon car first! then when you show reasonable skill you get the real deal.
Small cars help you to learn how to maintain momentum, really hit you marks on the track and the top speeds are not brutally fast or dangerous until you get very skilled as a pilot.
If you are a rookie in this game and are trying to learn a WTCC car in forced cockpit view, well GOOD LUCK to ya son! your gonna spend a ton of time getting pulled from gravel traps, tire barriers and agricultural areas!
Track familiarity is another essential component to driving BIG cars well. If your going to move up in class, you had BETTER know that track blind my friend! It's all going to come at you faster and hurtling down a straight trying to remember what corner complex awaits you is a bad sign and you'll be keeping the corner workers really busy!
The small/medium courses in this game are excellent! Brands Hatch Indy,Brands hatch, Monza are excellent learning tracks. Simple and quick laps are a key to rookie success I believe.
Finally how about tutoring via teamspeak? Since you can sit in anyones car and ride along, wouldn't this be possible? I did it for a long time IRL and a calm voice reminding you of your sins during a lap is always a huge key to building confidence and speed! We used Team Speak all the time in the Sailing Sim and it was a great tool and already widely available at RD right?
So this is my outline to help build the community and help new members lierally get up to speed! A simple weekly or bi weekly event in easy to drive cars on manageable tracks w/ a friendly angel in your ear just might get those new guys to stay on track.
feel free to expand the discussion and content of a possible program.
Hope this helps in some small way!
Dave Stephenson
Premium
Eric, the teamspeak info is with the race club passwords, theres always space on it so it and its wide availability will only really be governed by who has the equipment for it. (mic, headset...)
Its a nice idea you have. Theres a few little things like this around atm it seems. Good that the NA guys could have something to get invovled in too.
Its a nice idea you have. Theres a few little things like this around atm it seems. Good that the NA guys could have something to get invovled in too.
thanks Dave! Implementation is always the key..........
Hey Eric! I think it's great that you want to help people develop thier skills and get more enjoyment out of simracing! :good:.
I would like you to consider signing up for the upcoming "Americas F3000 Grand Prix Championships" that starts in late February. There are alot of driver there who are new to simracing and the F3000 is definetly a difficult car to drive and i think they would very much appreciate your help.
Also you seem like a very dedicated simracer so i hope you sign up.
http://forum.racedepartment.com/americas-f3000-grand-prix-championship/
I would like you to consider signing up for the upcoming "Americas F3000 Grand Prix Championships" that starts in late February. There are alot of driver there who are new to simracing and the F3000 is definetly a difficult car to drive and i think they would very much appreciate your help.
Also you seem like a very dedicated simracer so i hope you sign up.
http://forum.racedepartment.com/americas-f3000-grand-prix-championship/
Eric what you are proposing its a friendly developement serie, RD have made it in the past and is now doing it again ( http://forum.racedepartment.com/warren-dawes-friendly-development-series/ ) . i think its a good idea and Keith Barrick have had the same idea and i think that we have a few drivers in the community that could help with that. i think it can be done with some organisation and i'm sure the NA members would take advantage to such thing.
Great input Eric!! Thanks.
Yves beat me to it. That's what the "Friendly development serie" is all about.
I would like to point out that some are here to have fun as well and that might mean driving big cars even if we can't handle them and might just find little cars a little boring (again only personal preference)
Yves beat me to it. That's what the "Friendly development serie" is all about.
I would like to point out that some are here to have fun as well and that might mean driving big cars even if we can't handle them
and might just find little cars a little boring (again only personal preference)Aaaaah you guys know where all the gold is here in RD!
Eric not so sure you are the "we" you refer to here. LOL
HOw about some driving aids for those new guys in the big cars? ABS and TC and DSC could help them out a bunch. even if its not 80% or more.
Niklas I believe the F3000 even tis on saturdays which is impossible for me right now. Too bad I had some fun in one today at Monza but need some more laps and better set up to go quicker. only touched the 1:40's today and was a bit behind the pole to say the least.
Eric not so sure you are the "we" you refer to here. LOL
HOw about some driving aids for those new guys in the big cars? ABS and TC and DSC could help them out a bunch. even if its not 80% or more.
Niklas I believe the F3000 even tis on saturdays which is impossible for me right now. Too bad I had some fun in one today at Monza but need some more laps and better set up to go quicker. only touched the 1:40's today and was a bit behind the pole to say the least.
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Matt Alpeter
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Matt Alpeter
no driving aids!! tis illegal!
awe cmon matt! you telling me you disconnected the ABS in your car by now? LOL
Pulled the relay out of my 88 M3 track car and it was soooooooo much better to drive! Now where is that damn thing in my STI anyways?
Pulled the relay out of my 88 M3 track car and it was soooooooo much better to drive! Now where is that damn thing in my STI anyways?
That's to bad... Mayby you can still help does who want help with the F3000 cars? Most people here are not used to does cars and i'm sure alot of them would appreciate it...
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