I know China has a lot of electric car infrastructure but all the waste they make manufacturing the batteries is just dumped into lakes and oceans
The Road to Zero
- Thread starter Davide Nativo
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Most people don't have an extra 50k lying around to fix a problem that they don't currently have.
Everyone is having a serious discussion and I'm like...
Internal Combustion Engines engines?
When are people going to wake up to the political scam that is global warming?
If for one minute you believe the IPCC about global warming/climate change you need to look deeper, for a start it's got little to do with industry or car emissions, about 10%.
Climate change is a natural event that our planet has been through several times in it's history as far as science can understand, the last ice age was only 20 thousand yrs ago. 1 volcano can emit more CO2 in one major eruption than we do in 12 months of car emissions, and considering there are 6 active volcano's on the surface of the planet, what we emit as a race is negligible.
One of the biggest issues with this whole thing is the fact that they IPCC refuse to give up all the information on the alleged problem, instead only releasing the info they decide is warranted on their one sided and bias study, the IPCC is also funded by global governments.
Maybe they should ban the logging of trees globally before they go off half cocked, considering trees are essentially the lungs of our planet for all living animals, no trees/vegetation means no CO2 to OXYGEN conversion, the fact we as the dominate species cut down over 750 million acres of trees globally each year should be ringing alarm bells everywhere. CO2 is a hot gas, OXYGEN is a cool gas, so when you have more CO2 in the air the atmospheric temps will rise due to it being a hot gas, now if you add more oxygen, a cool gas, the temps will drop, pretty simple science really.
Our planet is a living organism, it has a life cycle that is finely balanced, mess with that balance and the consequences will be devastating, for all life.
If for one minute you believe the IPCC about global warming/climate change you need to look deeper, for a start it's got little to do with industry or car emissions, about 10%.
Climate change is a natural event that our planet has been through several times in it's history as far as science can understand, the last ice age was only 20 thousand yrs ago. 1 volcano can emit more CO2 in one major eruption than we do in 12 months of car emissions, and considering there are 6 active volcano's on the surface of the planet, what we emit as a race is negligible.
One of the biggest issues with this whole thing is the fact that they IPCC refuse to give up all the information on the alleged problem, instead only releasing the info they decide is warranted on their one sided and bias study, the IPCC is also funded by global governments.
Maybe they should ban the logging of trees globally before they go off half cocked, considering trees are essentially the lungs of our planet for all living animals, no trees/vegetation means no CO2 to OXYGEN conversion, the fact we as the dominate species cut down over 750 million acres of trees globally each year should be ringing alarm bells everywhere. CO2 is a hot gas, OXYGEN is a cool gas, so when you have more CO2 in the air the atmospheric temps will rise due to it being a hot gas, now if you add more oxygen, a cool gas, the temps will drop, pretty simple science really.
Our planet is a living organism, it has a life cycle that is finely balanced, mess with that balance and the consequences will be devastating, for all life.
Zero emissions is a myth. Electricity doesn't come from other planets, like Lou Reed stated once. It has to be produced, then there's the delivery chain and whatever else. It's all the same UN mumbo-jumbo KGB lies about saving humanity from itself and climate change. Don't believe in all that crap. It's a hoax.
But electric cars could be fun, politics aside. Like a life size RC toy you can drive.
But electric cars could be fun, politics aside. Like a life size RC toy you can drive.
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So, where exactly will all this lovely "clean" electricity come from?
Options: Nuclear, Gas/Coal, Hydroelectric and Wind/Solar. Of these, only Nuclear is really viable in terms of replacing the UK's current near-total reliance on burning hydrocarbons for electricity generation. And yet they plan to shut down most of their nuclear plants in the coming decade.
So, forgive me if I find it darkly amusing that the UK will be burning coal and gas to generate the electricity that these "clean" vehicles need.
Options: Nuclear, Gas/Coal, Hydroelectric and Wind/Solar. Of these, only Nuclear is really viable in terms of replacing the UK's current near-total reliance on burning hydrocarbons for electricity generation. And yet they plan to shut down most of their nuclear plants in the coming decade.
So, forgive me if I find it darkly amusing that the UK will be burning coal and gas to generate the electricity that these "clean" vehicles need.
Exactly. People are actually driving coal powered cars. But no matter, people are saving the planet don't you know?
"the full conversion of the UK automotive market from diesel and petrol to hybrid and electric vehicles."
Not really an ICE ban then is it. Wonder what the legal definition of hybrid will be - could you count running the car off the starter motor? coz that's doing exactly what a proper hybrid does
A lot of the UK's nuclear plants are simply end of life. The scandal is hardly any plan to replace the things when we knew it was coming, not that they're being decommissioned.
Even hydro isn't clean, it contributes noticeable amounts of methane.
Not really an ICE ban then is it. Wonder what the legal definition of hybrid will be - could you count running the car off the starter motor? coz that's doing exactly what a proper hybrid does
A lot of the UK's nuclear plants are simply end of life. The scandal is hardly any plan to replace the things when we knew it was coming, not that they're being decommissioned.
Even hydro isn't clean, it contributes noticeable amounts of methane.
Meanwhile, the UK keeps repeatedly breaking its own record for the longest amount of time without burning ANY coal.
Allready there, mate:
randMracer
Shut Up and Race!
That's because the United States have a lot of manufacturing plants in China. So theoretically the US is still a major contributor to global pollution. They're probably polluting a lot more then they would ever be allowed to in the US. They just hide behind China's lack of regulations.
Smells like new world order to me. Electric cars=expensive. Used electric cars? With worn out batteries? Don't think so. Privilege of owning a car will be for the rich, better off people. Working class take a bus. And knowing British government, they will do some useless stupid stuff like putting plugs at some higher middle class homes for next 20 years, put some charging points on the street and call it a day. While not contributing to making the tech better and cheaper.
What baffles me most is why nobody talks about hydrogen fueled cars. I think you can buy hyunday with such engine, only problem being the filling stations or lack of them.
Typical British politics, big words big hoo ha, and when it will come to deliver it'll be a sh*t show(just like Brexit).
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What baffles me most is why nobody talks about hydrogen fueled cars. I think you can buy hyunday with such engine, only problem being the filling stations or lack of them.
Typical British politics, big words big hoo ha, and when it will come to deliver it'll be a sh*t show(just like Brexit).
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Davide Nativo
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You guys does not read between the lines, US government will hit three birds with one stone :
1. no more pollution due to ICE powered vehicles,
2. no more overweight issues by promoting human-powered vehicles,
3. no more immigration/unemployment issue by promoting new "fancy" driver jobs
Common people will have to work their legs hard to go to work and holidays, meanwhile officials will have human powered Roman's chariot (imagine POTUS with all the secret service "slaves" whose didn't even have a drop of sweat in plain summer wearing their suits).
More seriously (who knows ?), all electric cannot work at all if nuclear power plants are dropped even before demand reach its expected peak level and no other reliable and effective energy sources are found in the meantime.
1. no more pollution due to ICE powered vehicles,
2. no more overweight issues by promoting human-powered vehicles,
3. no more immigration/unemployment issue by promoting new "fancy" driver jobs
Common people will have to work their legs hard to go to work and holidays, meanwhile officials will have human powered Roman's chariot (imagine POTUS with all the secret service "slaves" whose didn't even have a drop of sweat in plain summer wearing their suits).
More seriously (who knows ?), all electric cannot work at all if nuclear power plants are dropped even before demand reach its expected peak level and no other reliable and effective energy sources are found in the meantime.
Peter Boese
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Country says "Zero emission 2040", tells the small steps to this date. -> Immediately people crying out like this date is tomorrow. We lost jobs, we lost comfort, global warming is a lie. We dig out "CO2" for more than 100 years and blow it in the air to create energy and move our cars. We have to change something. And yes, we have to change also the production of the electricity to a cleaner way. But we must start to change. What we use now for the most are limited energy suppliers.
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Setting a target forces the industry to invest in this area of car manufacture, meaning that it will develop very quickly in the years coming up to and after 2040( such as creating longer lasting batteries)
FullyCharged is a good channel explains all the techie stuff an good car reviews, I've subbed them for a while. Got me thinking this electric revolution is not that bad after all
https://www.youtube.com/user/fullychargedshow/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/fullychargedshow/videos
MoerasGrizzly
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Ross, we could talk days about governments and how much they're actually willing to do for their citizens but
It's sooo pretty!
MoerasGrizzly
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You know what fossil fuels are right? They're plants and trees that died and got compressed into oil and gas over a process of 400 million years, a process that we undo by burning it for energy. Messing with the balance is what we've been doing for the past century, we're literally turning the CO2 to Oxygen process from millions of years ago around at a breakneck pace (or breakneck pace on a geological timescale).
