Sim racing paddock looks at the latest patch, its not good

BrightCandle · May 13, 2020

He even went back and compared to AMS1 and the feedback he gives is damning, AMS1 is night and day better. There are weird issues on braking, turn in, understeer, weird snap oversteer mid corner. All of these he thinks are physics issues.

Well worth a watch to see the extent of what is feeling and behaving weirdly, all be it a few hours long since its a live stream.

Leonardo Chaves · May 19, 2020

b)b said:
I'd avoid watching any youtuber AMS2 video at the moment as they are immediately obsolete within a week, after a new patch.

Also other than the fact that they are mildly famous they are no different from any opinion on this forum.

Next time i click on one of those i hope it's a real life driver or some really high level guy, Van Buren, Huis and company...

ilema · May 19, 2020

@Miguel Batista Sorry i mean AMS 1 (just edited the comment)

MarcG · May 19, 2020

ilema said:
Reiza is a cool studio that works very hard but this Madness engine is very limited.

So in your opinion with/without baseline knowledge of the Engine, Why is it "very limited"? Please provide examples in the utmost detail, comparing to other Engines that are similar to show its limitations, thank you.

Fi22le · May 19, 2020

MarcG said:
So in your opinion with/without baseline knowledge of the Engine, Why is it "very limited"? Please provide examples in the utmost detail, comparing to other Engines that are similar to show its limitations, thank you.

I know Renato (and maybe other Reiza staff) frequent this forum.

I often wonder what he / they think when they read people talk about their project as if they know intimate details about the game engine, and say stuff like ‘it can’t be fixed’. Lol.

I can’t believe there is some fundamental flaw with Madness that cannot be overcome. It doesn’t make sense. However, I don’t know that for a fact, so I won’t state it as fact.

What I do know to be a fact is that this game has evolved massively in the space of a couple of months, so they’re doing something right. The game today is unrecognisable to where it started, so I see no reason to believe it can’t continue to evolve.

Some guys over at the Reiza forums have done spectacular work with custom ffb files btw.

Edit: Unrelated but Sim Racing Paddock has got to be the most boring, pointless sim channel, and the competition for that honour is pretty stiff!

BrunoBæ · May 19, 2020

Fi22le said:
Edit: Unrelated but Sim Racing Paddock has got to be the most boring, pointless sim channel, and the competition for that honour is pretty stiff!

My personal oppinion(!) about Sim Racing Paddock is that the guy should take about 1 month out of his calender and then learn to drive a racing sim.
Every time I have watched him it looks like a 5 years boy that has stolen his fathers sim chair and wheel and try to figure out which way around the track he shall choose.

CatsAreTheWorstDogs: If I should qualify this sarcastic description a bit further then I have much more respect for GamerMuscle.

Because he is both able to talk and when he concentrate a bit also able to drive pretty decent and often competitive.
I dont know how he is able to do it but even when he is in a middle of an overtake he is able to whistle something hilarious.
Like "You should never support our sponsors - never".

motoliser · May 19, 2020

I was very concerned about the Physics and FFB but this last update has dissipated my worst fears.
At the moment, most of the vehicles feel great except on wet/dry surface transitions. Still a bit of ice skating and spining even with appropriate tire selection. Once this gets fixed Reiza will dominate the racing simulation market.

dreamer · May 19, 2020

AMS1 all day long for me same content plus better feeling

jkn87 · May 19, 2020

I can't cope with the UI and the cartoonist colors of the game. I know it's silly but it looks like toy cars. Even when playing some cars looks plastic cars.
I was expecting ams2 like hell but I have been very let down.
I play only vr, if that makes any difference

Emery · May 19, 2020

jkn87 said:
I can't cope with the UI and the cartoonist colors of the game.

Yes, Reiza have kept their color palette from original AMS. I'm not a fan of it, but I stop noticing about 30 seconds into driving, especially when I set the cloud cover changing.

Only complaint I have with the UI concerns triple screens... the final exit click is way, waaaay over on the right screen.

pennywiseguy · May 19, 2020

Emery said:
Yes, Reiza have kept their color palette from original AMS. I'm not a fan of it, but I stop noticing about 30 seconds into driving, especially when I set the cloud cover changing.

Only complaint I have with the UI concerns triple screens... the final exit click is way, waaaay over on the right screen.

As you have triple screens, I'm guessing you have a wheel, why not use your wheel buttons to exit the game? Thats what I do with my T300. I don't touch the mouse at all once inside AMS2. I never allocated the buttons, however, I just use the default assignments. I'm sure you could set them up yourself though.

Emery · May 19, 2020

It's a thought, but all my buttons are mapped.

dwightyone · May 19, 2020

jkn87 said:
I can't cope with the UI and the cartoonist colors of the game. I know it's silly but it looks like toy cars. Even when playing some cars looks plastic cars.
I was expecting ams2 like hell but I have been very let down.
I play only vr, if that makes any difference

Funny, I just bought a new monitor and Assetto Corsa looks like a BRAND NEW game compared to my previous screen at the same resolution. I've driven AMS2 on my old screen and I'm expecting it to look significantly better on my new monitor. My point is, sometimes it's your monitor settings or software settings ranging from windows, nvidia and how everything is setup.

pennywiseguy · May 20, 2020

Emery said:
It's a thought, but all my buttons are mapped.

Without going in game, this is a guess, but think you can have the same button assignments for menu and in race. So for example, my "back" button in menu, is the same as "request pit" in race.

maelstrom · May 20, 2020

Fi22le said:
Some guys over at the Reiza forums have done spectacular work with custom ffb files btw.

That does beg the question, though, that if someone posting on a forum can make the FFB better with a modified file, why couldn’t Reiza?

MarcG · May 20, 2020

maelstrom said:
That does beg the question, though, that if someone posting on a forum can make the FFB better with a modified file, why couldn’t Reiza?

Because they haven't finished tweaking the FFB yet, once they have done then who knows they may release their own Profiles but bear in mind they probably don't own all the different types of Wheels to accomplish this (that's where the community comes in).

Fi22le · May 20, 2020

maelstrom said:
That does beg the question, though, that if someone posting on a forum can make the FFB better with a modified file, why couldn’t Reiza?

Well, it's in early access, so I guess those forum guys are just helping things along -many hands make light work.

DEIC · May 20, 2020

Fi22le said:
Well, it's in early access, so I guess those forum guys are just helping things along -many hands make light work.

Probably wouldn't make much sense to fiddle and fine tune to perfection FFB for the cars as long as they do not have the final version of the cars physic yet just saying

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Shadylurker · May 20, 2020

Stepy said:
Did you watch him in the F3 car ? looked like he was driving a rally car, the physics still have that slight PC2 feel about them and need a bit of work yet , I don`t think the madness engine is up to the task of turning this into a hardcore sim unfortunately.... hope am wrong.

The madness engine is based off of RF1 though right?

Edit: https://www.imagespaceinc.com/#engine