It made me chuckle that you cited that.
Obviously you've forgotten about this from your "great" champion.
Or this
But yes I do respect your opinion. I just believe that he is not the best driver on the grid. And when we see him in a poorer car, and manage to muscle the car upto the front as Hamilton, Alonso, and Raikkonen do, then I will step back and don my hat.
And before you say it, 2008 Monza does not count, the car
WAS Newey designed, it was better than that seasons RedBull in fact because it had the Ferrari engine with Newey aero. Also Vettel was in a unique position to throw on a wet weather setup. The guys fighting for the champ did not have that luxury as if it dried then they would have been in no mans land.
When i cited that about Alonso i knew
exactly what would be your response, and i wanted even to warn you not to go theret, but i already wrote an essay so, i suppose this will be another. However, Vettel did waved his hands etc.
But he had every right to.
1st. Mark Webber
did something that is
out of imagination that will
ever happen in Ferrari, i.e. Massa in Ferrari all it was doing it was to serve to Alonso.
2nd. N.K. hit Vettel in Malaysia and that resulted with
tyre puncture, destroyed his race, and how on earth you wont complain about it?
The difference is that in both situations you posted, there is un-sporty manner, while with Alonso and Petrov, Petrov was fighting and he defended. Why would someone argue about that? Why wont someone argue when their race was destroyed or your teammate was too stubborn to admit you are faster... How do you put those two (mine & yours) as equal situations :S
MONZA 2008 - Toro Rosso Newey design ?
How on God's earth, second team will get that "famous" design, as it was special only for Toro Rosso, Vettels car
You wanna say that the design of Toro Roso was better than their first team, a lot budget more, Red Bull?
There is no logical explanation of why, the first team won't be designed by, perhaps, the only man greater than C.Chapman, Newey. After all, i am just wondering, why Vettel? Why Vettel? I mean, you are saying everything just to clarify that Vettel got everything best. Even when he did that with the team that replaced Minardi in 2005, you have guts to say that he never did what Alonso or Hamilton did or Raikkonen. My friend my friend, what Vettel did , Alonso Hamilton and Raikkonen combined didn't do. And plus, take into consideration, the years Vettel had!
Red Bull had Newey since 2005, how is it possible for a great great engineer to have success, right that year, when Vettel came in. I am thinking in this moment, i havent thought of that before you know, M.Webber, Coulthard etc, i understand for everything its needed time, but, 2005-06-07-8 ! 4 Seasons NO SUCCESS, Vettel comes in 2009 BANG there is victory and pole!
And when other won it, i never said it was cause of this or that, i understood, that he was worth champion who fought his way for it and did it. After all Alonso won it when Schumacher was sleeping, when he woke up, Alonso was lucky to have 10p advantage of Schumi, which engine failed him 1st time after 5 years. Not mentioning half the season Renault were using secret flexible springs in their nose, which was banned afterwards, but okay. Kimi, i knew 5 months before Kimi got the crown, that everything was set for him to be Champion. Hamilton? He took it by one point cause of Glock slowing down into the water, while Massa earlier was stupid to cruise for the victory in Hungary, instead his engine blow off in the last lap.
I cannot see how anyone of these today won or did something more than Vettel did.
If a kid came today and knew nothing of F1, and you open the cards like they really are, and tell him the whole story he would choose from 100 times 100 times Vettel.
4 titles are not won just like that, especially it wont be won by someone who expected to be given the title instead to work for it. I wrote above in what i believe. And saying that, i am more or less free to say that...perhaps
Hamilton won it cause of a good car or
Kimi or
Alonso, since, after all, they might weren't that much good, and the picture we got is that perhaps the car wasn't good enough. Or who knows, maybe, if they were indeed great, they would have made the picture Vettel is now creating (its the car is this is that bla bla bla) (not that i am right) but have u thought about that?
One thing is true, we cannot know! What we do know, Vettel is 4 times world champion. That is not falling from the sky.
I said how Hamilton Alonso used to discredit the talent of Vettel and how time will pass and they will change their opinions. And they did this week! Was i right? Yeah i was. You know how i knew that would happen ? Cause i lived that with Schumacher. Like @
Tom Endres says, they were hated. There were thousands of reasons why he was faster (Schumi) but never the true ones.
1.
no competition right (perhaps he blow it off and made it look that way)
2.
he had ferrari ( yeah right he just went into the rocket and won everything)
3.
there were no champions around (of course there were, he fought with throughout his career with 6-7 champions) - d.hill, senna, hakkinen, alonso and the others who were driving in his time but became champions after he retired - button, raikkonen
4.
he has help from barichello (why he shouldnt have? as if barricello ever had the chance to beat michael)
And never the real reasons, only excuses...
That is everything but not the truth. everything in order to escape from the fact that he was perhaps the best driver that ever lived. And when the time passed, eveyrone i knew that hated him or F1 people who disliked his abilities suddenly, everyone said he is perhaps the best driver in the world. Why? Because suddenly, all of that, their escapes, their excuses could no longer hold...he became 7 times world champion. Who is on earth worth to question his achievements, no one. The same goes now for Vettel. Comparing with this generation, for now.
J.Stewart said once: "The success of one driver in F1 is appreciated long after he is done with racing"
