S22 - General Discussion

[David Turnbull]

obviously Rf2 cannot replicate the altitude problems of the real world where you'd just bolt on as much downforce as possible and still be struggling for grip due to the thin air so using MDF might be a compromise on that to make it quite realistic (lets hope the Renault engine in game is as good as it was in real life at this track lol)

 

[Andrew Hollom]

obviously Rf2 cannot replicate the altitude problems of the real world where you'd just bolt on as much downforce as possible and still be struggling for grip due to the thin air so using MDF might be a compromise on that to make it quite realistic (lets hope the Renault engine in game is as good as it was in real life at this track lol)

But there's no reason why not, as the air density is easily catered for - lift and drag are both proportional to dynamic pressure (q), which is equal to 0.5 * rho * V * V, so just reduce rho (the air density) and voila! It is meant to be a simulation after all, so lets hope they simulate this too. However, I've found it to be done poorly or not at all too (MDP should be slower than HDP, at least if the F1 guys know what they're talking about, and they say it's a high down-force track).

I guess what I said above depends on whether rFactor 2 allows a track to have an altitude setting and, if so, whether the track's developer set it to a representative value.

 

[MOOOOOOOOOSCHT]

Probably I can`t make it tonight, because of an short-term business appointment.
If I`m not there at Q, perhaps I try to join the races.
Good luck all, cyas
Martin

 

[patchedupdemon]

Same don’t know if I can make it, my ex is playing up again causin all kinds of trouble

She would turn any red blooded male gay

I’m not gay by the way

 

[David Turnbull]

we'd have absolutley no problems if you were gay, all we ask is that you use force india livery.

 

[Raymond van Soest]

As long as it isnt ocon's I'm fine with that

 

[Raymond van Soest]

Was able to fix the pole statistics in the driver stats, so they should be correct. Updated my post with the updated analyzer results in the race reports just now. Reason it was incorrect was because the manual grid positions counted as quali results in the first race, so I deleted the quali results from all the sprint races

 

[Rob Swindells]

8 laps comparing mdf & hdf at Sao Paulo (same fuel, cooling etc):
hdf: 10:36.881
mdf: 10:37.303 (slightly more rubber on track)
I am leaning towards HDF for this round

 

[Nicolas Rouge]

Looks like I could not make it tomorrow. Cu at Abu Dhabi!

 

[patchedupdemon]

do you guys usually run the fr 3.5 all season long,or do you swap cars here at presto,just wondering if the new free mclaren mp4/13 would be considered for next season, if not im more than happy to stay with the fr3.5

 

[David Turnbull]

we try and use the car that will give us the best chance of new members and the best attendance to races, renault 3.5 has given us this so far. a few seasons back we used ASR F1 1992 and numbers of sign ups decreased by quite a bit, so if theres a car out there that we can be sure will get faces in the door then we'd surely consider it a possibility.

 

[Andrew Hollom]

I don't know what we as a group do between seasons, but we could have some sort of fun series where each race is with a different car-set, and it could be a simple practice/qualification/race format to make it easier to administer. We would get a rough idea who liked what the most, and use that to decide what to do next.

I have yet to try the MP4/13 so can't comment, but I do quite like the Formula Renault as I find a modern F1 car to be more of a test of reflexes than anything else, so I'd rather avoid that if possible.

We could also use circuits that are not on the F1 calendar too, like the old Silverstone, Brands Hatch, Rouen, etc. with driver safety not being of any consideration to us. Please don't hate me for saying it, but I even quite like the odd oval race, which each of the two previous leagues I was in (even the European one) included in their championships.

 

[David Turnbull]

thats what we do anyhoo Andrew, we always have fun races between seasons it helps the group stay together during the times when theres no league races.

 

[patchedupdemon]

I don't know what we as a group do between seasons, but we could have some sort of fun series where each race is with a different car-set, and it could be a simple practice/qualification/race format to make it easier to administer. We would get a rough idea who liked what the most, and use that to decide what to do next.

I have yet to try the MP4/13 so can't comment, but I do quite like the Formula Renault as I find a modern F1 car to be more of a test of reflexes than anything else, so I'd rather avoid that if possible.

We could also use circuits that are not on the F1 calendar too, like the old Silverstone, Brands Hatch, Rouen, etc. with driver safety not being of any consideration to us. Please don't hate me for saying it, but I even quite like the odd oval race, which each of the two previous leagues I was in (even the European one) included in their championships.

If you like the fr3.5 you will love the mp4/13

 

[MOOOOOOOOOSCHT]

Is there a race on Wednesday this week (5.12.) ?

 

[David Turnbull]

yes, we only done the 20 mins last week as the numbers on server made it not worthwhile to do the 50 mins, so this wednesday we will be doing a 20 mins race (no points) and 50 mins (full points)

 

[patchedupdemon]

just a heads up, ive had to turn alot of graphics settings down as the yas marina track is very very nice but recourse intensive, i like to hold 89fps for latency reasons

 

[Raymond van Soest]

Ahh so it isnt just me. Got 17-45 fps thought something was wrong with my pc

 

[Andrew Hollom]

I've just tried it and even with everything on Low I only got 30-40 fps with a low of 25 fps and a maximum of 45 fps. I usually run everything on High/Ultra (but turn it all down to Medium/High for the races, to be on the safe side). I'll reboot my computer just to be sure it's not playing silly-buggers. It's odd looking on Low, as there is just blue sky beyond the fences, so it's hard to get any sort of frame of reference as to where you are.

I'm downloading (from the launcher) a track called "Yas Marina Circuit" on SimRacingHub.com.F1 (as opposed to ours which is called "RaceRfactor Yas Marina 2013") to see if it's any better. Just tried it quickly and it is better giving me a steady 60 fps (which is what I have it capped at) with everything on Medium/High, but had the odd stutter when it dropped into the 20's, which sometimes happens [EDIT: but goes] once you've been through that section once. I'll try it properly tomorrow and report back.

 

[David Turnbull]

ive downloaded it, will give it a try on the server, let me know what you guys think tomorrow if you get round to testing it

thanks for the heads up folks