Again, I agree with you that things have to be made more streamlined and intuitive for (new) users.
No, not just for new users. For everybody. The rf2 server browser just for starters is not any better for old users. It lacks massive amount of basic features that are missing for everybody. Do you want a list? I can make lists.
But to claim that logging into RD to manualy handle zip files is faster than automated processes is propably the biggest nonesense I've ever read.
To install
In ac:
1. go to racedepartment.com
2. search for mod by name in downloads
3. download it
4. open the package and unpack it into ac folder /drag the zip file over content manager
done
In rf2:
1. go to steam, navigate to the game workshop, search for mod by name
2. subscribe to it.
3. it downloads automatically although you get no confirmation of this. You just have to know subscribing means install
4. start rf2 and it runs the mod installer
done
Then do that when joining a server. The rf2 system falls apart so badly that the failure rate is higher than success rate. It takes insanely long time to download and install the content the server requires before you can join. And you can not avoid it because there is no way to speed it up doing it manually...
The mod removal is simple in ac as it is a case of simply deleting a folder and the content manager can even open the folder for you. In rf2 you need to hunt down the mod from steam and then unsub. In reality the automatic thing is not faster because in the end in both cases it is all about searching for the button to press and to get to t hat button is quicker in ac. Ac is also adding a mod installer/downloader via content manager but haven't used it.
That being said I need to go find that rf2 folder where it stores massive amounts of useless junk. I need more diskspace... turns out this can not be done, every mod takes twice the space it needs
In that regard I wonder how a sim that is supposed to be a total mess according to some users here manages to get very positive user reviews on Steam in a hub very basicly everything is ripped in pieces when it doesn't work. Propably all of them were written by fanboys ...
Well you said it, not me. And calling rf2 a total mess is something I'd agree. Doesn't mean the game doesn't have positives but boy does it have negatives.
After all if a person doesn't fall in love with rf2 then "rf2 is not for you". The game never really seems to be issue. It is always the user. It is that mantra of "maybe rf2 is not for you" that seems to embody the whole is so fully that progress is almost frowned upon because in the end it would mean validating the haters.
I didn't have time to respond to this, and I think it's too late to edit my post, but this seriously needs addressing because it clearly shows how biased you are toward your sim of choice. You twist stuff not paying attention to how ridiculous you are.
And we are starting to get into the issue with rf2 here. Once a person criticizes rf2 the person himself suddenly becomes the talking point. Somehow I need to prove that I am worthy, I am not a hater, that I don't have agenda, that I don't twist facts. How do I even prove that? I'm not asking you to prove you are not a fanboy. Like, can we talk about the topic? The topic is not me or you.
Your argument that mods don't get updated that often so it's no biggie? Twisting reality, some mods are updated fairly often. What's often, what's rare is subjective so I'll leave it at that.
No it is a fact. Just because a mod has an update doesn't mean it is a must install. It doesn't break anything. And it gives you the choice to even use older version. Sure it is a miniscule positive in the end but it also means ac loads just as quickly after a day of absence and year of absence.
The argument that you don't want to update a mod is pure BS if you race online, because the mod should be required to be exactly the same version everyone else is running, don't you think? Again, this I believe is twisting reality because the way rF2 does it is way superior to AC. Auto vs manual process
Why don't you try that magical rf2 online file sharing join a server system? It seems to crap out more often than not, downloads and install takes forever. In ac I can see even before joining if I have all the content and also in some cases I can see if my files are up to date too.
It comes from here
https://www.racedepartment.com/threads/rate-the-sims-community-edition-rfactor-2.175996/
Satisfied? I hope you didn't think I made it up?
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For some reason I remembered your name as someone who just loves to take jabs at rF2 while touting up AC at the same time. I like to know who I talk to, and where they come from so I checked last years' ratings from RD, and low and behold there it was. 3/10 for rF2 and 9/10 AC.
I think 3/10 for rf2 is right, it is my opinion of the game after all. Ratings are not facts, there is no unified sim rating system out there. Yes great physics but tons of issues. It is hard to have fun with rf2. Would my points become valid if I rated rf2 9/10? And I don't rate sims based on the length of their feature lists or focus on single thing. For me all that matters is how well it works. Ac works, ams works, rf2 doesn't work.
I believe they are working on this as high priority.
After 8 years it is finally a high priority (server browser that works). Wonder what changed? "Haters" moaned about it and the devs finally saw it as an issue?
