Revealed: Williams FW41
- Thread starter Paul Jeffrey
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I don't think halo is stong enough to hold weight of entire F1 car
Reading the Halo crash test report of Matt Morris (McLaren) they seem really strict.
Same could be said about grid-girls. But we got rid of one thing and kept the other.
Same could be said about grid-girls. But we got rid of one thing and kept the other.
I don't see your point. I don't see the comparison. The halo could save lives. Seriously. Save lives. It might have given Jules Bianchi a chance of life if there'd been one on his car that day at Suzuka.
So let's try and keep some sense of proportion shall we?
Beat me to it... I was about to say the same!
It's approx 80 kN for an empty bus - quite a lot for a static load, but in F1 which is all about dynamic forces (flying cars, wheels etc), depending on the mass,velocity & deflection -- 80 kN capacity is not very much.
Halo is all well and good until a smaller part like what struck Massa smashes into a drivers face, or like the example of a car coming over the top what if a piece of carbon gets wedged into the big gap in the halo and has nowhere else to go but into the driver?
Whether you think its ugly or not, the fact is it is no where near 100 % safe, at least a screen like indy car is heading towards 100% safe ie it will deflect pretty much everything.
For me, i think its a lot of effort for something that can only deflect wheels (they are tethered anyway) and other cars coming over the top.
Drivers sit so low down these days anyway they could duck down and avoid most stuff anyway.
At least the screen can become part of aero dynamics...
As soon as you put a screen on an F1 car it looks like the future.....the halo looks like something a banger racer would do.
Whether you think its ugly or not, the fact is it is no where near 100 % safe, at least a screen like indy car is heading towards 100% safe ie it will deflect pretty much everything.
For me, i think its a lot of effort for something that can only deflect wheels (they are tethered anyway) and other cars coming over the top.
Drivers sit so low down these days anyway they could duck down and avoid most stuff anyway.
At least the screen can become part of aero dynamics...
As soon as you put a screen on an F1 car it looks like the future.....the halo looks like something a banger racer would do.
To be more precise it was actually "a London double decker bus", source:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-halo-can-withstand-weight-of-a-london-bus-allison-1002998/
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-halo-can-withstand-weight-of-a-london-bus-allison-1002998/
In Motorbike racing the pioneered the rider air bags, leathers that puff up cleverly to cushion riders when they fall off.
Why could something not have been designed around that where something inflates over the driver cell to stop stuff hitting them but only activated when an impact occurs.
I am free wheeling here not given it much thought but surely also a driver button so they can press it so if they are heading into the wall they can press it to inflate a safety cell around them in the cockpit over there head?
Why could something not have been designed around that where something inflates over the driver cell to stop stuff hitting them but only activated when an impact occurs.
I am free wheeling here not given it much thought but surely also a driver button so they can press it so if they are heading into the wall they can press it to inflate a safety cell around them in the cockpit over there head?
Andy_J
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Well to make it all super safe and to keep the snow flakes of this world happy. Lets just ban all forms of motorsport. That way no one will get hurt or die in any of them. We have to accept risks as part of our choice.
Thank goodness Motorcycle road racing ignores the Health and Safety mob.
Thank goodness Motorcycle road racing ignores the Health and Safety mob.
Its called humour to deal with our daily first-world problems and stay sane.
Or to keep your suggested proportions: halo could save lifes, women give life.
Jules tragic accident created about 500 kn. And we should let him rest in peace. Just take a look at the figures of the new safety device (picture linked from www.formula1.com):
Now you might understand, why i am in doubt.
We? You are a veteran gamer or a veteran real driver? Easy to speak on a playseat.
Motorcycle ignors Health and Safety? Shut up, please.
Well, in my opinion, your first attempt at humour was in poor taste and unfunny.
If this second statement is also an attempt at humour, well, don't give up your day job. Unless your day job is as a comedian, in which case, give up your day job.
But surely we also encourage the mitigation of such risks?
As an armchair racer, I know I do. Not, obviously, out of concern for myself, but out of concern for others.
