Cars PM3DM Super Touring Cars

[CMGARAGE]

Seems PM3DM sneak peeks are like buses! Glad to see the team still plugging away with these after all these years.

 

[Ben Lee]

The Volvo (and Peugeot) is modelled by Paule and the sound for the Volvo has been done by Hillclimber96.

It would be great to publish the BMW and at least one other car this year, hopefully more but who knows.

 

[carlos quintao]

My gosh nothing to say just need to wait
TANKS

 

[Ben Lee]

Further interior work on the Volvo S40...

 

[Mascot]

The Volvo (and Peugeot) is modelled by Paule and the sound for the Volvo has been done by Hillclimber96.

It would be great to publish the BMW and at least one other car this year, hopefully more but who knows.

Ref your unanswered calls for help with the physics, I'm just wondering if releasing alphas of the driveable cars would kick-start offers of help from the community? You guys are doing sterling work but are seemingly struggling to dedicate enough resources make the progress you want. There are a lot of talented people on these boards so you might be pleasantly surprised by the reaction.
Just a thought, and one you all probably discussed already a long time ago.

 

[Ben Lee]

To be honest, the BMW is about 98% complete physics wise, so its just now the modelling for that which needs to be completed. I have requested a minor tweak to the suspension to do with the anti squat and anti dive.

However yes, we could use some assistance with physics creation for the cars we have in a semi-complete state like the Volvo S40, Peugeot 406. Reason I say creation is because we have nothing laid down yet at all for either car, so if we were to publish something tomorrow it would likely just be a hackjob of the Nissan physics which ideally we don't want to do. I have been helping out doing little bits here and there but I have zero ability to create a suspension set. The rest of it is pretty easy and I could do most of that (I reckon the suspension creation is about 80% of the design of the overall physics for a car as its so complex so...), but the other 20% (aero, engine stuff, drivetrain, car.ini) stuff isn't that hard to fathom.

 

[mclarenf1papa]

(I reckon the suspension creation is about 80% of the design of the overall physics for a car as its so complex so...), but the other 20% (aero, engine stuff, drivetrain, car.ini) stuff isn't that hard to fathom.

Respectfully (and completely) disagree

 

[civicgsir]

You guys are doing sterling work

Absolutely. Beautiful to see.

 

[Leonardo Ratafiá]

To be honest, the BMW is about 98% complete physics wise, so its just now the modelling for that which needs to be completed. I have requested a minor tweak to the suspension to do with the anti squat and anti dive.

However yes, we could use some assistance with physics creation for the cars we have in a semi-complete state like the Volvo S40, Peugeot 406. Reason I say creation is because we have nothing laid down yet at all for either car, so if we were to publish something tomorrow it would likely just be a hackjob of the Nissan physics which ideally we don't want to do. I have been helping out doing little bits here and there but I have zero ability to create a suspension set. The rest of it is pretty easy and I could do most of that (I reckon the suspension creation is about 80% of the design of the overall physics for a car as its so complex so...), but the other 20% (aero, engine stuff, drivetrain, car.ini) stuff isn't that hard to fathom.

Sounds like it's time to release that bmw for massive testing along with any nissan primera updates

 

[Deleted member 223075]

After two years,i think too it's time to release one car for testing and help you improve it.

 

[Ben Lee]

After two years,i think too it's time to release one car for testing and help you improve it.

Whilst I completely understand the desire to release, that decision ultimately rests with Patrik and from internal discussions I believe there was a desire to release it in a more complete form than what happened with the Nissan.

 

[GTAce]

I'm patient, even if it's hard.

 

[Mcolbs92]

Wow, looking incredible so far, cannot wait to see this finally get released!

 

[Patrik Marek]

I feel your pain guys, have to say it's more painful to actually have access to the files and seeing the slow progress first hand but it's tough, everyone - including me - does what he can , in the limited free time we have

 

[sKorse]

As many times that have said this, they are not enough. Thank you for creating this content with so many detail and dedication even being low on personal and time. It's going to take more time than the initial thought, but it will be worth it! Keep going on this awesome project!! Thank you again!!

 

[Ben Lee]

Most of the 3D work done now on the Volvo S40, this will shortly move to mapping and texturing...

Artist; Paule_NLC

 

[Ben Lee]

Also last year I went to go and visit the workshop of the owner of the Volvo 850 and ex-Rydell S40, where I gathered a lot of data.

Please see below for a few pics. We also got to hear about some interesting tricks employed which we aren't sure we can replicate, but interesting nontheless. For example the S40 had a unique rear passive steer system, they referred to it as toe steer and its on the setup sheets below. Also they ran much more equal camber than other cars and much softer springs at the rear, indicating a differing philosophy in design to the Nissan.

Also a partial 850 photoscan was attempted but it was so cramped, it wasn't really worth much, maybe a bit of bumper and bonnet could be used.

 

[SellerieMitDip]

Whoa, that's quite something! So cool!

 

[GTAce]

The S40 was my go to car in ToCA 2.

 

[Kyuubeey]

At worst, you could bodge something with RWS that produces a similar behavior. If it's just a flexible link, it shouldn't be impossible to get *something*.