Peoples opinion now of AC physics?

[Msportdan]

Ive been watching a few of these RL vs AV comparison videos, an I'm surprised to see how much AC resembles the movements, corrections and handling of the real life videos. What are peoples opinion of AC latest physics and realism. Of course taking away the AI, is this a contender for most "authentic handling sim" in peoples opinion (not mine) I'm intrigued?

 

[Helmut Skrdla]

Eduard, I see you rated my post. Are you also going to reply, or are you not actually interested in discussion on what constitutes realism in a simulator environment?

 

[Chris Kennedy]

https://gfycat.com/BlandGoodnaturedLark
https://i.gyazo.com/d2484984b662ebc1edc59c5fb8981f0a.mp4

lol those gifs prove literally nothing. any number of assists could be active, or in the case of the second one, almost certainly virtual steering wheel animation limit is enabled to create that comical video.

good work as always though adding value to the discussion

actually wait, the 2 members you are following tell me that you are an expert on simulation value, my bad.

hard to tell if you have an agenda or are just in it for the number of "haha" etc. ratings on your posts, either way, the dedication is impressive/sad

 

[David Dominguez]

or in the case of the second one, almost certainly virtual steering wheel animation limit is enabled to create that comical video.

It wasn't

 

[Radu Oros]

It wasn't

Then why doesn't he show the full drift, from its start to its end, maybe even putting pedals app on screen. Then we can all analyze the whole picture.

 

[seanvdburg]

I'd say have a look at the physics comparison videos Aris made, and draw your own conclusions.
Real life driving in the same car done by the same person is a valid base to compare the game with. Your perception of how a car is supposed to drive/drift, isn't.

 

[Stereo]

I'm not sure what 2 videos of drifts are supposed to prove, do you have a video of the exact same inputs in RF2 in the same car not drifting the same?

I mean, in this video the guy spends about 3x the duration of either of your clips with the steering wheel motionless
youtube.com/watch?v=MBkzXpMpSR4

(8 seconds no movement of the wheel period, 16 before he moves it enough to really make a difference)

 

[Eduard Mallorquí]

lol those gifs prove literally nothing. any number of assists could be active, or in the case of the second one, almost certainly virtual steering wheel animation limit is enabled to create that comical video.

There were no aids, either any tricks on those gifs. That's usually the physics behavior everyone gets on AC, long slides and easy saves, so I'm surprised you find them comical.

 

[Helmut Skrdla]

Interesting that you avoid further "realism" discussion Eduard.

 

[Radu Oros]

There were no aids, either any tricks on those gifs. That's usually the physics behavior everyone gets on AC, long slides and easy saves, so I'm surprised you find them comical.

People usually drift like this with this car, this is the most recent video I could find to post here (starts from 0:30). This is the drift tuned version of the E30.

It has nothing to do with the steering inputs from your gif:
https://embed.gyazo.com/d2484984b662ebc1edc59c5fb8981f0a.mp4

Could you do a proper video and record the beginning of the drift until the end of the drift? Preferably with the pedals app on screen.

 

[Lily Starfox]

What people fail to explain here is that Assetto Corsa can be tweaked so that it feels like a true simulation or a simcade. Even the developers said it themselves.
AC is "open" to EVERYBODY.
If you enable ALL driving assists, it's actually pretty "easy" to drive, and yet more pleasant than Project CARS.
Disable them ALL, and you get one of the most realistic simulators out there.
(I leave some settings on "factory" though)

Therefore...
Anti-AC people set the game so that it plays like a simcade, they enable all the driving assists, they put videos of it all over the web, and say "look! the physics are so unrealistic! It sucks compared to rFactor 2!! Buy rfactor 2 instead!!!"
I've seen them doing it since 2 years now.
I guess you can say it's similar to what scammers do.

Remember the infamous comments on youtube, on EVERY assetto corsa video, which said "wow this game sucks compared to X-motor racing! It doesn't even have night and rain! Buy x-motor racing instead!"
Well rFactor 2 fanboys do the EXACT same thing, on most websites.
https://www.reddit.com/r/simracing/comments/2i8o2w/we_should_boycott_x_motor_racing/
Seriously, these guys were EVERYWHERE, harassing Assetto Corsa as much as they could.

It makes one wonder about the rFactor 2 "community".


Edit : this comment will get a "ha ha" from "Associat0r", "Eduard Mallorquí", and "
David Dominguez" in 3...2...1...
(the x motor racing dream team!)

 

[David Dominguez]

Therefore...
Anti-AC people set the game so that it plays like a simcade, they enable all the driving assists, they put videos of it all over the web, and say "look! the physics are so unrealistic! It sucks compared to rFactor 2!! Buy rfactor 2 instead!!!"
I've seen them doing it since 2 years now.
I guess you can say it's similar to what scammers do.

Do you have any evidence that this is the case of the gifs that were posted here?

 

[Lily Starfox]

Do you have any evidence that this is the case of the gifs that were posted here?

Oh the .gif wasn't even made by you, huh.
So you can't prove it otherwise.
I think that anybody who drove without driving assists in AC will tell you that it's impossible to do what's happening in that .gif.

 

[Qazdar Karim]

What people fail to explain here is that Assetto Corsa can be tweaked so that it feels like a true simulation or a simcade. Even the developers said it themselves.
AC is "open" to EVERYBODY.

Can you make a real life car drive like a trackmania car by adding driving assists ?

 

[Lily Starfox]

Why am I even wasting time with X motor racing fanboys?

 

[William Levesque]

Oh the .gif wasn't even made by you, huh.
So you can't prove it otherwise.
I think that anybody who drove without driving assists in AC will tell you that it's impossible to do what's happening in that .gif.

AC is ez mode to be honest, still... I shouldn't get bored sliding around, but here I do. RIP.

 

[David Dominguez]

Oh the .gif wasn't even made by you, huh.
So you can't prove it otherwise.
I think that anybody who drove without driving assists in AC will tell you that it's impossible to do what's happening in that .gif.

I made the gif.

 

[Lily Starfox]

I made the gif.

 

[Radu Oros]

Look, easy sliding and drifting! rf2 simcade confirmed?

 

[Brownninja97]

Can you make a real life car drive like a trackmania car by adding driving assists ?

that would be pretty cool if it was true.

 

[William Levesque]

Look, easy sliding and drifting! rf2 simcade confirmed?

I'm not gonna judge some rip-off **** mod, however the old 70's NASCAR thing was pretty cancerous to drive. rF2 is weird anyway, never seen such an inconsistent and messy game (I mean, at least PCars is consistently disappointing).