AC Multiclass Abarth500/Mazda Mx5@Sandown, Wed 19th July 2023

[stigs2cousin]

Jose,

I myself held off on telemetry way too long because I hate working with computers.
First takeaway for me was that I don´t find the best line by driving a track.
Even looking on a track map didn´t help much. (so not much intuition/talent on my part.)

Seeing my line on the trackmap and comparing speed traces for several laps allowed me to better place the nadir (slowest point) and develop line/apex from there.
The back into AC and find markers for braking, apex and trackout.

The problem with this approach is that Z1 has very few track edges for download, at least for the tracks we drive here. So you have to make the trackmaps yourself by driving both edges precisely.
Not difficult, but tedious

Z1 has free trial (you have to restart every 15min).
If you want I could send you a data pack for race we both did and you can compare the lines and speed traces

 

[dbx71]

Hi all, thanks so much for the support, a lot of information there. Do not missunderstand me I am not giving up, I was just disappointed because I ruined my race in the first lap, I have had great moments fighting with Ricardo or Domenic in previous races which I really enjoy, no matter who wins.

I really enjoy this group, I was having support from the very beginning, people like Bouke, Douglas, Daniel, Han... etc, already help me when I started and even send me personal messages.

Paul, you are right on your comments, as soon as the blue flags start I get nervous the only thing I do not want is to ruin their race, but I will follow your advice.

Carsten, also good advise, I have a couple of books I read... I learn a lot with them, probably same books you have, happy to recommend to anyone. Telemetric, I do not think I am at that level yet.

As Collin said, when I drive with others I jump in their cars and learn a lot,... That is very good.

Summarizing, I do not complain guys, I just was a little bit frustrated yesterday, but it was only my fault... I like this new hobby and enjoy every track.

Thank you guys

Hey Jose ! You’re getting faster, no doubt about it. I still remember the last time we raced at Road America, which incidentally is one of my favorite tracks and I thought I was pretty decent at, I could not shake you!
You were in my mirrors the entire race until I finally cracked and went off the track! Lol.

Like many others have said, the trouble is that every one else is getting faster too…

Sorry I haven’t been around lately, things have been pretty busy lately and I’ve dropped to 1 or 2 races a week. However I’ll be back soon to give you a run for your money!.
In the meantime, just keep on rolling!

 

[Boukâh]

Jose,

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The problem with this approach is that Z1 has very few track edges for download, at least for the tracks we drive here. So you have to make the trackmaps yourself by driving both edges precisely.
Not difficult, but tedious

…

Carsten, do you know a good site/place where to get good trackmaps for Motec? Installed all the software/in-game apps and it’s producing data files. But I’d like to work on my lines and braking and exit zones. Good trackmaps come in handy there. I tried the ‘create your own map’-method, but not shure if I did that right. (Tried it on Spa, quite a long track to very slowly stay on outer and inner lines ).

So, good quality trackmaps would be nice. I did a search on it, but I’m not sure where to get them.

 

[JamKart22]

MoTec will create a good track map if you generate it from "Lateral G & Speed" rather than the more obvious option of "GPS".

 

[stigs2cousin]

Carsten, do you know a good site/place where to get good trackmaps for Motec? Installed all the software/in-game apps and it’s producing data files. But I’d like to work on my lines and braking and exit zones. Good trackmaps come in handy there. I tried the ‘create your own map’-method, but not shure if I did that right. (Tried it on Spa, quite a long track to very slowly stay on outer and inner lines ).

So, good quality trackmaps would be nice. I did a search on it, but I’m not sure where to get them.

Yeah,
no luck for me there

That´s one of the reasons I still use Z1, drive the track edge, click "load as left edge" repeat for other side, done.

Motec can do wondrous things with data as you can program it to do anything with channel properties and math.
But I´m no race engineer and hate computers and math, so I go the easier and more expensive way

 

[RasmusP]

Carsten, do you know a good site/place where to get good trackmaps for Motec? Installed all the software/in-game apps and it’s producing data files. But I’d like to work on my lines and braking and exit zones. Good trackmaps come in handy there. I tried the ‘create your own map’-method, but not shure if I did that right. (Tried it on Spa, quite a long track to very slowly stay on outer and inner lines ).

So, good quality trackmaps would be nice. I did a search on it, but I’m not sure where to get them.

@KFMaster creates track maps for Motec for his formula agile races.
Maybe he can help you to get them right

 

[JamKart22]

MoTec will create a good track map if you generate it from "Lateral G & Speed" rather than the more obvious option of "GPS".

Or have I misunderstood what you're after?

 

[RasmusP]

Or have I misunderstood what you're after?

I think so, yep.
One thing is the line driven, like you explained.
But you can also record 2 additional laps, where you drive completely on the edge of the tarmac.
You can then tell the Motec driving line menu to use the 2 laps as the track borders.
That way, you'll see your line in relation to the tarmac borders and see if there could be a better driving line.

 

[Boukâh]

Or have I misunderstood what you're after?

Well, I’m looking for trackmaps with inner and outerlines to which I can relate the optimal racing line, or at least tell where I miss the racing line. Would be great if there are some ready made trackmaps for motec. I’m practicing for Spa at the moment. And very new to acti and Motec

 

[stigs2cousin]

I havn't found a site for Motec yet.

Only some tracks (Kunos and the most common mods) are available for Z1

 

[JOSEJ]

Hi all, Do not why but Helicorsa doesn't work in my pc, and I tried with the help of the author, what about real time? Where can I find this app?

 

[stigs2cousin]

I think Realtime is obsolete ?!?

Have you tried "Car Radar?

 

[Medilloni]

Hi all, Do not why but Helicorsa doesn't work in my pc, and I tried with the help of the author, what about real time? Where can I find this app?

Hi Jose, an alternative to Helicorsa (if you can't get that working) is 'Car Radar', I haven't used it though I know of many that like it, link here: https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/car-radar.15743/ (but you can't install it with CM, it's a manual job)

The Realtime app is, I think(?) called Substanding - shows gaps to cars and can be altered to show different classes too, linky: https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/substanding.4998/ and the extended version here: https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/substanding-extended.51973/

 

[JOSEJ]

Thank you John, I will give it a try when I find some time

 

[Shed 17]

I think Realtime is obsolete ?!?

Have you tried "Car Radar?

Realtime is an AC standard app and still available in menu selection as far as I am aware.

 

[stigs2cousin]

You´re right, it gives you the relative timing to other drivers.

We must be talking about something else...

 

[HF2000]

Hi all, Do not why but Helicorsa doesn't work in my pc, and I tried with the help of the author, what about real time? Where can I find this app?

Hi Jose,

After you installed Helicorsa, did you also activated it in AC?

If you have done that then you can select Helicorsa from the app menu on the right side of the screen like all the other apps (except Crew Chief which is a separate application).

 

[JOSEJ]

Hi Jose,

After you installed Helicorsa, did you also activated it in AC?
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If you have done that then you can select Helicorsa from the app menu on the right side of the screen like all the other apps (except Crew Chief which is a separate application).

Hi Han.
Thank you for the heads up, I have both car radar and Helicorsa ticket on CM, but do not appear in the side menu even when I ticked all alternatives for phyton apps... I found real time, that one works

 

[HF2000]

Hi Han.
Thank you for the heads up, I have both car radar and Helicorsa ticket on CM, but do not appear in the side menu even when I ticked all alternatives for phyton apps... I found real time, that one works

When you have clicked on 'all apps' you don't see something like this?

And Helicorsa is visible in this folder?

 

[Boukâh]

Haha, Han, what is ‘Alien V2’ a nitrous kit for you Abbarth?