Hello sorry for slow answer.
Yes the crowd model not public yet (not finished) so I'm not including it and the sp (sponsor) file now combined with the base model. I forgot to delete both from models_main.ini
No, it's not a CSP settings problem. Like you, I use the standard far plane setting 20000, 30000. I have about 450 mod tracks installed and only very very few (maybe 10 tracks) have flickering problems. So, no, it's not a CSP settings problem, it's a modding problem. And no, I won't change the far plane setting, as this has an massive impact on the performance in VR. Like Mascot, who has the same flickering, I'm playing in VR and so I have 2 displays with different viewing angles. Maybe, when playing with a monitor, it's not so easy to notice the flickering. The problem is called Z-fighting (flickering).Hello sorry for slow answer. This issue may caused by your CSP's 'Adaptive Clip Plane' setting. To fix this flickering issue, try to set your 'adaptive clip plane' under 'Graphics Adjustments' and change 'Far Plane' nominal until the issue gone. For reference my set are 20000,30000. Tell me if the problem persist after changing these, thank you
Thanks for replying @Frank25.No, it's not a CSP settings problem. Like you, I use the standard far plane setting 20000, 30000. I have about 450 mod tracks installed and only very very few (maybe 10 tracks) have flickering problems. So, no, it's not a CSP settings problem, it's a modding problem. And no, I won't change the far plane setting, as this has an massive impact on the performance in VR. Like Mascot, who has the same flickering, I'm playing in VR and so I have 2 displays with different viewing angles. Maybe, when playing with a monitor, it's not so easy to notice the flickering. The problem is called Z-fighting (flickering).
Z-fighting - Wikipedia
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To remove the flickering, you just have to increase the distance of the adsboards meshes from the meshes behind a little bit, really only a little bit and not much as you wrote . That's all.
As I already wrote in a post above until there is a fix for the flickering adsboards, we only can hide the meshes, that cause the flickering. Just add the following section to the ext_config.ini of the track.
;;;;;;;;;;;;;; HIDE FLICKERING ADSBOARDS ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
[MESH_ADJUSTMENT_...]
MESHES = petnas, perta, mtl, tiss, alp, liqui, michel, mgp unlimited, jahre, dhl, wonderful, argen, Lapisan Dinding Luar
IS_RENDERABLE = 0
And once again for all the people out there, who don't want to understand, why i only gave 2 stars for your track and voted my review down. This track has massive flickering in VR and is not useable, because of a poor optimization. So only 2 stars. Sorry!
Hello, thanks for let me know that the problem still persist.No, it's not a CSP settings problem. Like you, I use the standard far plane setting 20000, 30000. I have about 450 mod tracks installed and only very very few (maybe 10 tracks) have flickering problems. So, no, it's not a CSP settings problem, it's a modding problem. And no, I won't change the far plane setting, as this has an massive impact on the performance in VR. Like Mascot, who has the same flickering, I'm playing in VR and so I have 2 displays with different viewing angles. Maybe, when playing with a monitor, it's not so easy to notice the flickering. The problem is called Z-fighting (flickering).
Z-fighting - Wikipedia
An example:
To remove the flickering, you just have to increase the distance of the adsboards meshes from the meshes behind a little bit, really only a little bit and not much as you wrote . That's all.
As I already wrote in a post above until there is a fix for the flickering adsboards, we only can hide the meshes, that cause the flickering. Just add the following section to the ext_config.ini of the track.
;;;;;;;;;;;;;; HIDE FLICKERING ADSBOARDS ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
[MESH_ADJUSTMENT_...]
MESHES = petnas, perta, mtl, tiss, alp, liqui, michel, mgp unlimited, jahre, dhl, wonderful, argen, Lapisan Dinding Luar
IS_RENDERABLE = 0
And once again for all the people out there, who don't want to understand, why i only gave 2 stars for your track and voted my review down. This track has massive flickering in VR and is not useable, because of a poor optimization. So only 2 stars. Sorry!
Hi, like my reply with frank25 above, after looking further into the cause of the flickering problem it turns out that the flickering problem is not caused by the 'far planes' in the 'adaptive clip planes' setting, but it's the 'near planes' which is the cause of flickering because this setting will cause Z-fighting at a certain distance. Maybe you can change the near plane nominal under 'Adaptive Clip Planes' to 0.1,10 (default setting) or if you are using VR change the near plane nominal under 'Clip Planes in VR' to 0.1. if the problem persists let me know. Thank You
Even if this does reduce the flickering adboards, it's still treating the symptom rather than the cause. If the adboards were made correctly then you wouldn't need to ask people to change their CSP settings just to suit your track.Hello, thanks for let me know that the problem still persist.
After looking further into the cause of the flickering problem it turns out that the flickering problem is not caused by the 'far planes' in the 'adaptive clip planes' setting, but it's the 'near planes' which is the cause of flickering because this setting will cause Z-fighting at a certain distance. Maybe you can change the near plane nominal under 'Adaptive Clip Planes' to 0.1,10 (default setting) or if you are using VR change the near plane nominal under 'Clip Planes in VR' to 0.1. If the problem persists let me know. Thank You
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It's not a CSP setting that causes z-fighting at certain distances, it's meshes clashing with each other in 3D space. Hundreds of other mod tracks don't have this issue because the meshes have been placed correctly. On your track, they clash.Hi, like my reply with frank25 above, after looking further into the cause of the flickering problem it turns out that the flickering problem is not caused by the 'far planes' in the 'adaptive clip planes' setting, but it's the 'near planes' which is the cause of flickering because this setting will cause Z-fighting at a certain distance. Maybe you can change the near plane nominal under 'Adaptive Clip Planes' to 0.1,10 (default setting) or if you are using VR change the near plane nominal under 'Clip Planes in VR' to 0.1. if the problem persists let me know. Thank You
Noted. May try to fix this problem by moving the ad board model farther from the barrier in the next update. Sorry if I kind of reluctant to fix this issue cause most player not having this kind of problem. Me too have tested my mod with no problem with CSP's default setting
Thank you for your constructive answers. You spent so much time to make this wonderful track and it would but really a shame, that we can't use it in VR, because of an easy to fix problem.Noted. May try to fix this problem by moving the ad board model farther from the barrier in the next update. Sorry if I kind of reluctant to fix this issue cause most player not having this kind of problem. Me too have tested my mod with no problem with CSP's default setting
And hey you said it's not just the adboard that glitched. maybe you can share the images of flickering objects? thanks
Images wouldn't work, the flickering often doesn't show in pics, but other flickering meshes include:Noted. May try to fix this problem by moving the ad board model farther from the barrier in the next update. Sorry if I kind of reluctant to fix this issue cause most player not having this kind of problem. Me too have tested my mod with no problem with CSP's default setting
And hey you said it's not just the adboard that glitched. maybe you can share the images of flickering objects? thanks
Thanks to you so I can deeply understand the main cause of the problem and helping me to fix the issue. Sorry for making you wait so long until this problem is finally resolved. hope you enjoy the track
