Well I fixed the casters angles on the hubs everything is perfect,
I thought there only 4 broken skinned mesh but there is 8 nothing works at all,
more visible the others but inspecting them closely the inside is broken also,
I tried everything still no luck with it,
the engine must not like the physical mesh of the skinned mesh,
so will start again from scratch and make them dummies not mesh,
but this way is even more buggy from experience but its the last thing that may fix it
I said these are a nightmare, so strange because everything worked perfect this morning