MGP17 First Look at MotoGP17 (?)

[Matthew327]

Leading up to the MotoGP weekend in Argentina, Milestone have posted a few images (probably) showing content from the new game. Unsurprisingly, the images look rather disappointing.

For as much as can be told from the five screenshots posted, there looks to be no major improvements over last year in terms of 3D model quality, textures or track surroundings.

 

[Giovaneveterano]

From what I can see in the MXGP 3 forum, the new UE4 makes modding a new challenge for us.
http://www.racedepartment.com/threads/mxgp3-modding.136405/#post-2493591

The fact that motogp series continues with the old engine, at least this year, is positive.

 

[Jonix]

I've just bumped into a review from the latest build that they showed at Mugello.
I've tried my best to translate it for you guys

"During the presentation held at Mugello, Milestone confirmed that in this new edition there will be improvements upon tyres grip simulation and
some steps up regarding AI: though, once tried, the experience looks like the same as always. Although the game needs to be tested deeply
before judging it fairly, AI riders don't look more aggressive than in the past and the improved collision system doesn't really change the
game much, and especially the physics simulation improvements do not really bring anything new to MotoGP17.[...]"

Notice that the game enters the gold phase one month before release, so they've stopped working on the game weeks ago.

 

[Giovaneveterano]

Are they trying to fool people?
It looks like they do it.

 

[Giovaneveterano]

Latest screenshots

 

[Xtra-Large22]

Work for skinner's Update Yamaha with ENEOS (red, orange) down Monster Logo

 

[Jan Volenec]

I don´t think players could beat 1:47 in VRTG in default physics. So maybe Milestone made something better than year ago

 

[Valkan]

I just tried and got 1:44 in VRTG with standard physics and auto transmission.
It doesn't mean much though : the physics in the new game are supposed to be different.
Do we know what AI difficulty he was playing on ?

 

[Zibi]

It's sad that I find it refreshing to see a preview of a MotoGP game where the reviewer can actually hit half of the apexs, doesn't need to use the rewind every two corners and doesn't have 15 seconds worth of penalties from a 3 lap race

 

[Giovaneveterano]

Mugello still has the wrong meter-boards at San Donato (turn 1).
They keep saying they improved every aspect of that track, but as I can see, they didn't.

 

[Jan Volenec]

Yeah I know that some people actually could make about 1:40 at Mugello.. But I think that Mugello has been edited to be honest... But the main improvement for Mugello is its lenght because when you edit bike physics and after that you can make realistic lap times for example at Losail it means that you will make a really unrealistic time at Mugello but I think they finally edited Mugello and maybe some other tracks but we are not able to see that difference if it is only in metres of circuit lenght. Everybody knows I am a sceptic to Milestone but after this gameplay I think they have made something

That Mugello improvement can be really good point for my future physics mod because yesterday I tested it at Mugello and the lap times was terrible... You can´t make realistic mod If circuits had wrong scale or lenght...And perhaps I see a difference in turn Correntaio (Turn 12) The hill is not as high as it was in VRTG

 

[Jan Volenec]

Mugello still has the wrong meter-boards at San Donato (turn 1).
They keep saying they improved every aspect of that track, but as I can see, they didn't.

Yeah 150 should mean 300 where riders start to brake I think

 

[Jonix]

I think my bestlap at Mugello is 1.44.3 it's the only hotlap I remember because I made a video about it.
Jan is right, the correntaio corner seems to have a different height, but other than that they simply retextured things.
There is still a lot of room for improvements. The track seems off, especially if you compare to Assetto Corsa's.

Austin kerbs are still deeply wrong, it's annoying. They saw my pictures last year about Jerez and Austin but they did absolutely nothing. I'm tweaking VRTG's Mugello and I'll tweak this one too

 

[Jan Volenec]

I think my bestlap at Mugello is 1.44.3 it's the only hotlap I remember because I made a video about it.
Jan is right, the correntaio corner seems to have a different height, but other than that they simply retextured things.
There is still a lot of room for improvements. The track seems off, especially if you compare to Assetto Corsa's.

Austin kerbs are still deeply wrong, it's annoying. They saw my pictures last year about Jerez and Austin but they did absolutely nothing. I'm tweaking VRTG's Mugello and I'll tweak this one too

ALL TRACKS are wrong it is Milestone

 

[Jonix]

ALL TRACKS are wrong it is Milestone

Austria is not that bad, it looks much better with a proper texture pack. But yeah, the 3d models often ruin everything. I pay too much attention details, for example I hate Catalunya and Sepang in game because they look **** while in real life they are amazing

 

[Jan Volenec]

Austria is not that bad, it looks much better with a proper texture pack. But yeah, the 3d models often ruin everything. I pay too much attention details, for example I hate Catalunya and Sepang in game because they look **** while in real life they are amazing

The worst is if you ever visited the real circuit.. My local is Brno so I know how the track should look like and only in Pcars it is "quite" realistic but we are again at the biggest point and it is that EVERY RACING GAME SHOULD HAVE LASER SCANNNED TRACKS

 

[Jonix]

The worst is if you ever visited the real circuit.. My local is Brno so I know how the track should look like and only in Pcars it is "quite" realistic but we are again at the biggest point and it is that EVERY RACING GAME SHOULD HAVE LASER SCANNNED TRACKS

Yeah Brno too. Playing MotoGP15 I realised Brno in game had wrong colour kerb order..
Like in real life it's white-blue-red but in game it was white-red-blue. I mean, come on..At least they fixed it for VRTG. It still looks bad though, so cartoonish

 

[Jan Volenec]

Yeah Brno too. Playing MotoGP15 I realised Brno in game had wrong colour kerb order..
Like in real life it's white-blue-red but in game it was white-red-blue. I mean, come on..At least they fixed it for VRTG. It still looks bad though, so cartoonish

The worst thing about Brno in games is that in real-life it is one of the most hilly circuit and Ive spent all weekend watching from Tribune G (turn 12-13) and it is on really big hill and in games it is quite mid-high and in MotoGP I never crashed in those corners but in real life it is really "lowside" place

 

[Xtra-Large22]

Brno is quite similar for not saying the same version as Brno 2004 from GTR2 , with texture and recolours stuff

 

[Jan Volenec]

Brno is quite similar for not saying the same version as Brno 2004 from GTR2 , with texture and recolours stuff

Yeah I have never seen that before and it is really good work for 2004 but the track is quite flat but again.. really good job for 2004.. And again.. Best creaton of Brno is in original Project CARS or modded in AC ( idk the name of author )

 

[Jonix]

I know we're running off topic but that Brno gives me a more realistic vibe than Milestone's