MGP17 First Look at MotoGP17 (?)

Matthew327 · Apr 8, 2017

Leading up to the MotoGP weekend in Argentina, Milestone have posted a few images (probably) showing content from the new game. Unsurprisingly, the images look rather disappointing.

For as much as can be told from the five screenshots posted, there looks to be no major improvements over last year in terms of 3D model quality, textures or track surroundings.

polerst · May 7, 2017

Thank you for the answer. I am a little bit disappointed, especially with signing-up fake riders. Hope we would get infinite bike development, but... probably it's impossible.

Giovaneveterano · May 8, 2017

I had a closer look to some photos on the Milestone website.
Apparently they worked very well on the new RCV adding the new airduct, the new exhaust and the new brake footers.
Yamaha and Ducati received the small changes they needed.

Giovaneveterano · May 8, 2017

New screens (bad quality)
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Giovaneveterano · May 8, 2017

Regarding the "visual" aspect the game it's improved massively. I mean all the clean and real life TV graphics that put the immersion to a whole new level.
The graphics engine it's still like a mobile-phone one tho.

Matthew327 · May 9, 2017

Had another look at the gameplay footage. Very clearly to be seen, the visuals are not actually the real life graphics, but at least fairly similar. (Comparison footage below)

Jan Volenec · May 9, 2017

Matthew327 said:
Had another look at the gameplay footage. Very clearly to be seen, the visuals are not actually the real life graphics, but at least fairly similar. (Comparison footage below)

The main problem is that there is not a Unreal Engine ... it is a shame of the year

McBurza · May 9, 2017

What I find really shameful are crashes.
That's what I'm excited about in bike racing sport where even the best can loose a seat after the slightest mistake.
But in the game even the "low-quality" riders fall like never.
And then next to the lame AI behaviour it makes just speeds comparing of individuals except racing.

Seems to me that the grid always finishes as it starts with really small changes and races are always won by the same riders.

When I return to crashes and ignore the completely arcadish resistance to it, it would be nice to see some injuries which wouldn't allow you to participate in two weekends or something, or for example temporary penalties on your abilities in percentage (f.e. if you had your ankle hurt your shifting would be slower or something, flu decreases stamina,.. ). It doesn't even need to be often, but from time to time it would make the game fresh.
In my opinion it would be the best to have a abilities editing possibility like NHL series or Mount & Blade have. Then these injuries and everything would work perfectly I believe.

Maybe it would take a much work to do, but I think Milestone owe it to their supporters after years of so-so games they do, instead of starting to work on it three months before release- just to make skins, some models, commercial where we speak about genius next - gen something...

Then what I really miss is replay I loved MotoGP 2 for. Maybe I don't remember it right, but that TV replay felt to me like real TV cameras and I finished probably every single race with watching it then.
Games I enjoyed the most were probably this MotoGP 2 and SBK series

Jonix · May 11, 2017

Bikes do not behave like that
AI still jumping on kerbs lmao

er185 · May 11, 2017

Matthew327 · May 11, 2017

er185 said:

I'll go as far as to admit - that managerial career looks fairly decent. Graphics, physics and 3D models aside, that looks like a much more sensible addition than Rally and Mustang drift challenges.

polerst · May 11, 2017

New manager mode is something what I have needed for this game! The only shame is that there will not be real riders' transfers, but I know that this is not Milestone fault. The only question - how does this all look? Is there infinite bike development or leasing bikes for season? Or like last time, when we had after a few seasons all elements/bikes bought?

McBurza · May 11, 2017

polerst said:
New manager mode is something what I have needed for this game! The only shame is that there will not be real riders' transfers, but I know that this is not Milestone fault. The only question - how does this all look? Is there infinite bike development or leasing bikes for season? Or like last time, when we had after a few seasons all elements/bikes bought?

Well, I think these real riders don't have to be a big problem.
I believe we have here guys who can do big things (for example 2017 season) so renaming and editing of fantasy riders could be okay (I'm not capable of that personaly)

polerst · May 11, 2017

McBurza said:
Well, I think these real riders don't have to be a big problem.
I believe we have here guys who can do big things (for example 2017 season) so renaming and editing of fantasy riders could be okay (I'm not capable of that personaly)

Yeah, I know it's possible and I know that I will edit them to have Superbike riders, etc. but I have another thought - that AI teams can not transfer riders (for example: we could not hire Cal Crutchlow from LCR Honda - okay, we can edit fake rider to have Cal, but then we will have two Cals on the grid)

Matthew327 · May 11, 2017

polerst said:
Yeah, I know it's possible and I know that I will edit them to have Superbike riders, etc. but I have another thought - that AI teams can not transfer riders (for example: we could not hire Cal Crutchlow from LCR Honda - okay, we can edit fake rider to have Cal, but then we will have two Cals on the grid)

I agree with you, this limitation is disappointing. I hope I won't get crucified for making a FIFA comparison here - I personally always preferred hiring young scouted (and thus generic, fake) players to my squads and develop them.

Sure, I'd love to be able to hire some Moto2 talent for my MotoGP team, but with the limitations on MotoGP licenses, we should take this as what it is: A first step in a good and interesting direction. If the feedback is positive, there's hope that maybe Dorna will be a little more relaxed about this matter in 2018

McBurza · May 11, 2017

polerst said:
Yeah, I know it's possible and I know that I will edit them to have Superbike riders, etc. but I have another thought - that AI teams can not transfer riders (for example: we could not hire Cal Crutchlow from LCR Honda - okay, we can edit fake rider to have Cal, but then we will have two Cals on the grid)

I see what you mean, but if you know how, you can make the game as you wish, though it might not be worth it...

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McBurza · May 11, 2017

Matthew327 said:
I agree with you, this limitation is disappointing. I hope I won't get crucified for making a FIFA comparison here - I personally always preferred hiring young scouted (and thus generic, fake) players to my squads and develop them.

Sure, I'd love to be able to hire some Moto2 talent for my MotoGP team, but with the limitations on MotoGP licenses, we should take this as what it is: A first step in a good and interesting direction. If the feedback is positive, there's hope that maybe Dorna will be a little more relaxed about this matter in 2018

Yeah, when you're speaking about this comparison, for EA Sports games it never was a problem to make rosters as you wished (at least 'till 13')
Would be beautiful if Miles' could make it somehow.

BTW Does any of you guys know how it's about to be with customization options? I mean the gear.
As I saw the Manager part and all the riders had those boring XLite/Nolan helmets, hopefuly they're not doing such a step back and keep just these.
I kind of hope they add to (last year) AGVs the other helmets like Shoei, BELL,...

swaty · May 11, 2017

mmm i think in manager mode, if we can tweak the bikes (gear ratios, suspension etc..) to make them accelerate on certain tracks i think its going to be easy to win. I reason i say is because on previous versiones the default bike configs for the ai across any track was the same.

fachrym91 · May 12, 2017

what i want is:
1. bring back the highlight just like MotoGP08 after finishing the race, cause i want to see the crash and the battle overtakes from other AI Riders..
2. Bring Back the celebration just like MotoGP 4!