Can't see any difference to 2019.
I suppose they could win this year -- if they get more consistent at more races.
I suppose they could win this year -- if they get more consistent at more races.
F1 | Ferrari Reveal The New SF1000 2020 Grand Prix Challenger
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Count yourself lucky if you did not watch the reveal live. I happened to see most of it because of a phone notification from F1.com.
Opulent opera house stage on which some kind of kinetic ballet accompanied by a DJ and composer-led orchestra* preceded a bunch of boring to tears talk with Binnoto (sp?) along with Seb** and Charles. Underwhelming.
The whole spiel ended with the president of Ferrari pulling a badly creased Italian tri-color out his suit pocket*** along with equally bedraggled bland blanca (blanco?) "Essere Ferrari" flag on which the grey hashtag slogan barely showed up. El presidente then draped the red, white and green over Vettel's shoulders. (Really, he did!) I have seen better produced kindergarten pageants.
I agree with the comments about matte red--at least the dancers' outfits were gloss red with white stripes!
*Not a bad commissioned theme, but the best thing about it was the screaming engine "notes" which were decidedly NOT hybrid V6!
**Could someone please find this poor man a decent barber? I mean hecdoesnt use his rear view mirrors in the race, but someone shouls show him hiw bad the back of his hair looks.
***Didn't he and one other company big wig get the memo to wear a black suit instead of blue?
I would like to see the red cars help make things interesting this sesson, but the reveal failed to ignite any passion in this Italian-American.
Set the German**** down and put Italian-Aussie in his seat. Oh wait, he's making big bucks parading around in a Renault.
****I am also German-American. Not a Vettel fan (because of his whining), but appreciate his talent and achievements and apparent love for Ferrari, the Beatles, and knowledge of F1 heritage.
Opulent opera house stage on which some kind of kinetic ballet accompanied by a DJ and composer-led orchestra* preceded a bunch of boring to tears talk with Binnoto (sp?) along with Seb** and Charles. Underwhelming.
The whole spiel ended with the president of Ferrari pulling a badly creased Italian tri-color out his suit pocket*** along with equally bedraggled bland blanca (blanco?) "Essere Ferrari" flag on which the grey hashtag slogan barely showed up. El presidente then draped the red, white and green over Vettel's shoulders. (Really, he did!) I have seen better produced kindergarten pageants.
I agree with the comments about matte red--at least the dancers' outfits were gloss red with white stripes!
*Not a bad commissioned theme, but the best thing about it was the screaming engine "notes" which were decidedly NOT hybrid V6!
**Could someone please find this poor man a decent barber? I mean hecdoesnt use his rear view mirrors in the race, but someone shouls show him hiw bad the back of his hair looks.
***Didn't he and one other company big wig get the memo to wear a black suit instead of blue?
I would like to see the red cars help make things interesting this sesson, but the reveal failed to ignite any passion in this Italian-American.
Set the German**** down and put Italian-Aussie in his seat. Oh wait, he's making big bucks parading around in a Renault.
****I am also German-American. Not a Vettel fan (because of his whining), but appreciate his talent and achievements and apparent love for Ferrari, the Beatles, and knowledge of F1 heritage.
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I don't know if this is subliminal and maybe there are more pics...but isn't it interesting that they used Leclerc's car for the picture with both drivers standing next to it? Does this mean they're putting all their WDC hopes in him this year?
If the car remains competitive to Merc and RELIABLE (crucial because the Mercs rarely ever break down)...and Ferrari gives Leclerc the "A" strategies from Australia onwards (and hopefully they're good strategies)...then this might very well be the year...
...that one of them becomes runner-up in the WDC because Hamilton will still grab #7 anyways
. I just want it to be a close title fight down to the final races.
If the car remains competitive to Merc and RELIABLE (crucial because the Mercs rarely ever break down)...and Ferrari gives Leclerc the "A" strategies from Australia onwards (and hopefully they're good strategies)...then this might very well be the year...
...that one of them becomes runner-up in the WDC because Hamilton will still grab #7 anyways
. I just want it to be a close title fight down to the final races.
if Magic Wand is the only tool you know in Photoshop, then YES
Looks about the same for me.
It is cleaner but I still find F1 liveries to be bland compared to GT3, Indy and so on.
I love collecting scale models but I never buy any more F1 models because they look largely the same if you look at the span of a few years. The evolution of the liveries is extremely slow and incremental.
It is cleaner but I still find F1 liveries to be bland compared to GT3, Indy and so on.
I love collecting scale models but I never buy any more F1 models because they look largely the same if you look at the span of a few years. The evolution of the liveries is extremely slow and incremental.
they worked to improve on the losing speed at the corners , now we all have to wait and see if they really improved on that aspect. If they somehow have better downforce than the mercs Ferrari can win more races , the title though.... strategy needs to be on point and Ferrari are know for very stupid mistakes in basic situations
as someone said here in this thread ... shorter axles less wheelbase would be perfect ... it would look even more "aggressive" ...
during the 90-2008 it was perfect ... I never liked the 2009-2016 era "skinny", "thin" ... from 2019 onwards, this is when these cars look better ... more mature the design because there was no rule changes (I never liked shark fin)
this year I hope it's like the year 2000
Hakkinen (gray car) vs Schumacher (red car) fight until the end.
Hamilton (gray car) vs leclerc (red car) .....
The 2000 season was almost, ALMOST perfect:
hackk vs schumi final fight (01 doesn't count)
Ferrari first victory in 21 years!
1st year of white and blue williams
1st year of black and orange arrows
Last year of no TC (harder driving)
Last year of "original" minardi.
Benneton's last year "original."
Jaguar's first year.
First year of Rubens in Ferrari.
vestappen returns ...
last year of an Argentine in F1 ...
full of tobacco and no ugly circuits...
fist year of indyanapolis
and the last year of "old school" pilots. (except hill) (they were not montoya, raikkonen, alonso and the other "kids" ... only "gentlemen")
many more things made it special to 2000 ... 99 was truncated by the schumi accident ... and 01 hackkinen had no motivation to fight knowing that he was retiring ... schumi had it easy.
FERRARI F-2000
it was the last year of ferrari with "high nose" in many many years
(almost last year without the ugly vodafone logo)
MCLAREN MP4/15
it's so sexy
"hakkiller" in spa..and overtaking
even the damn Minardi M02 of Gene and Mazzacane was very striking ... and within the design, also "aggressive".
That's why I don't get away from F1 Challenge 99-02...
during the 90-2008 it was perfect ... I never liked the 2009-2016 era "skinny", "thin" ... from 2019 onwards, this is when these cars look better ... more mature the design because there was no rule changes (I never liked shark fin)
this year I hope it's like the year 2000
Hakkinen (gray car) vs Schumacher (red car) fight until the end.
Hamilton (gray car) vs leclerc (red car) .....
The 2000 season was almost, ALMOST perfect:
hackk vs schumi final fight (01 doesn't count)
Ferrari first victory in 21 years!
1st year of white and blue williams
1st year of black and orange arrows
Last year of no TC (harder driving)
Last year of "original" minardi.
Benneton's last year "original."
Jaguar's first year.
First year of Rubens in Ferrari.
vestappen returns ...
last year of an Argentine
in F1 ...full of tobacco and no ugly circuits...
fist year of indyanapolis
and the last year of "old school" pilots. (except hill) (they were not montoya, raikkonen, alonso and the other "kids" ... only "gentlemen")
many more things made it special to 2000 ... 99 was truncated by the schumi accident ... and 01 hackkinen had no motivation to fight knowing that he was retiring ... schumi had it easy.
FERRARI F-2000
it was the last year of ferrari with "high nose" in many many years
(almost last year without the ugly vodafone logo)
MCLAREN MP4/15
it's so sexy
"hakkiller" in spa..and overtaking
even the damn Minardi M02 of Gene and Mazzacane was very striking ... and within the design, also "aggressive".
That's why I don't get away from F1 Challenge 99-02...
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Must be a blessing and a curse for a design studio...Apparently the styling is by the famous Italian design house Copezi e Paztie.
On the one hand it's the mighty world renowned Ferrari asking your company to design the livery for their new title challenger!
But then on the other hand, reality kicks in and when you ask them what sort of design they want and they say, Red...
Man.... too much playing games.as someone said here in this thread ... shorter axles less wheelbase would be perfect ... it would look even more "aggressive" ...
during the 90-2008 it was perfect ... I never liked the 2009-2016 era "skinny", "thin" ... from 2019 onwards, this is when these cars look better ... more mature the design because there was no rule changes (I never liked shark fin)
this year I hope it's like the year 2000
Hakkinen (gray car) vs Schumacher (red car) fight until the end.
Hamilton (gray car) vs leclerc (red car) .....
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The 2000 season was almost, ALMOST perfect:
hackk vs schumi final fight (01 doesn't count)
Ferrari first victory in 21 years!
1st year of white and blue williams
1st year of black and orange arrows
Last year of no TC (harder driving)
Last year of "original" minardi.
Benneton's last year "original."
Jaguar's first year.
First year of Rubens in Ferrari.
vestappen returns ...
last year of an Argentine
full of tobacco and no ugly circuits...
fist year of indyanapolis
and the last year of "old school" pilots. (except hill) (they were not montoya, raikkonen, alonso and the other "kids" ... only "gentlemen")
many more things made it special to 2000 ... 99 was truncated by the schumi accident ... and 01 hackkinen had no motivation to fight knowing that he was retiring ... schumi had it easy.
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FERRARI F-2000
it was the last year of ferrari with "high nose" in many many years
(almost last year without the ugly vodafone logo)
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MCLAREN MP4/15
it's so sexy
"hakkiller" in spa..and overtaking
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even the damn Minardi M02 of Gene and Mazzacane was very striking ... and within the design, also "aggressive".
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That's why I don't get away from F1 Challenge 99-02...
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In this particular case F1 challenge '99-'02.
The same way I stuck in CART season '96, thanks to playing too much game from my avatar.
I spend a ton of times looking at these cars, listen about the same pilots, gazing at these oh so beautiful (or are they?
) liveries and the same for you - staring all these years at F1 2000 cars."2000 is special cause it's a first year of...", "2000 is special year cause it's a last year of..."
make peace with yourself... it's all in your head.
2000 is just another year in F1 circus.
You wasted your energy on this wall of text in vain.
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Probably because they cleaned up the black spot on the rear fin. Subtle, but it does change the look quite a bit.
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Seems like mercedes is up for serious competition this year, competition is always welcome when striving to be the best. Likewise, there's fierce competition among FO76 caps sellers to claim the top spot and get most sales.
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No this one is completely different....Exactly the same as last year. Only stickers looks bigger.
But hey just like I say to my wife: it's about the inside and not the outside (and then I'm talking about myself and not about Mrs.
)Are you talking about F1 cars spec in this season or you talking only about Ferrari ?
If it's all that simple they would make those changes last year and solve all their problems about lack of downforce (comparing to Mercedes) on their car. Put some bigger wings and voila, we're glued to track.
But if we talking about changes in regulations... then it's ok but all cars will benefit from new regulations not just Ferrari.
Wait, are wings bigger this season ?
I suck at following rules changelogs... 
Spotting the evolutions from last year is beyond mortal knowledge, unless maybe if you have the 2019 and 2020 cars side by side in front of you.
After reading your post I watched part of the replay on Youtube (skipping the blabber) and I don't regret it, it was the most funny piece of kitsch since Dead Or Alive music video clips.
After reading your post I watched part of the replay on Youtube (skipping the blabber) and I don't regret it, it was the most funny piece of kitsch since Dead Or Alive music video clips.
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The wing is vital for down force. Teams get as much as they can get away with in the regs.
As for the car above its blocky all those 90 deg angles. OK in the day but airo has come a long way since this car. But you can draft it and pass it unlike the modern cars.
All the airo work is for 2021. When we get a new airo package and thin tires. So less work on airo for 2020.
When you put 2019 pictures side-by-side (yeah i did that) the differences are minimal; 2019 has a bit of black paint on the front wing and some other small stuff.
Probably relatively little is being spent on major bodywork development this year, for obvious reasons.
Probably relatively little is being spent on major bodywork development this year, for obvious reasons.
