AC Alfa Romeo GTAm @ Goodwood - Mon 27 Jul 2020

[Denis Betty]

really enjoyed the race although my races are fairly lonely after a few laps lol, loved the car and track i just need to work on keeping the car on the track for the duration of the race

If you do that, you'll improve. Keeping it on track is the biggest single improvement you can make. Keep racing and concentrate on that, and you'll be having close battles for the whole race in no time. Well done for sticking with it. Keep it up.

 

[HF2000]

really enjoyed the race although my races are fairly lonely after a few laps lol, loved the car and track i just need to work on keeping the car on the track for the duration of the race

And Content Manager appointed you as a driver that 'made remarkable progress' in this event!

 

[Callum Hornby]

I'm gonna have to start making more time or these events after how fun that was! I didn't get too much practice so my setup was all done in-event, which was tricky, so frankly I'm happy to have kept it on the sticky stuff and kept out of trouble. Halfway through the first race my force feedback stopped working properly, and decided it just wanted to turn left. I think my wheel was possessed by a Nascar driver just glad it was working in time for the second race

 

[Kek700]

Most enjoyable race, first race was a bit of a catastrophe for me, knocked of the circuit twice, hit the chicane three times, got to the point where I froze every time I was faced with it. Why that exists is a complete mystery to me, it is more like a filter than a chicane. It was obviously filtering me out.
I under stand the Monza chicane, but what service does the Goodwood chicane serve.
Second race was much better, my usual terrible start, but at least I survived that.
Helped along with some great battles, especially with the organiser @Denis Betty, so that is a big thankyou from me. Luckily for me he was not as resilient as he was in the first race. And a great battle with @Locoblade , which was most entertaining.
And I must say I enjoyed this experience for what I learnt struggling to set this car up, once I stopped trying to get 139 mph on the end of the straight.
I don’t know what happened to @Medilloni never saw him at all, I would have enjoyed another battle with John.
The good thing about Goodwood, even starting eigth on the grid, felt like second row.
Oh! and another thankyou for everyone in making it for me, a great event.

 

[HF2000]

It was a lot of fun. The car is great! I tried a lot with the setup to improve but stupidly I didn't try brake bias changes. But just before the race someone mentioned that he changed it to 75 so last minute I choose 74 and that had a significant positive effect on my lap times and consistency.

The track is nice too but I still haven't got a clue which line to take in Madgewick Corner. Is that a double apex or something like that? And I really loved the Fordwater/St.Mary's part of the circuit!

Question to @Denis Betty : you had more top speed than me. Which gear settings did you use?

And to all: I think an event with this car on the Luccaring will be a blast. If you have a bit of time, you can see for yourself. https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/luccaring-circuito-dei-baluardi.6544/

 

[Locoblade]

It was a lot of fun. The car is great! I tried a lot with the setup to improve but stupidly I didn't try brake bias changes. But just before the race someone mentioned that he changed it to 75 so last minute I choose 74 and that had a significant positive effect on my lap times and consistency.

The track is nice too but I still haven't got a clue which line to take in Madgewick Corner. Is that a double apex or something like that? And I really loved the Fordwater/St.Mary's part of the circuit!

Question to @Denis Betty : you had more top speed than me. Which gear settings did you use?

And to all: I think an event with this car on the Luccaring will be a blast. If you have a bit of time, you can see for yourself. https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/luccaring-circuito-dei-baluardi.6544/

Glad the brake bias tip helped, does tend to lock up the fronts a bit with that much dialled in but massively helps confidence and stability going into the corners.

Madgwick seems to be one of those corners you can take a few lines and be reasonably quick but it's hard to get it consistently really quick. Not sure it was the best line but I found staying a bit wider to start with helped, I was turning in a bit at the 100m(?) board but only to about mid track whilst rolling off the throttle and changing down a gear trying to get gradually towards the inside for the second apex so I could carry speed and get on the throttle as early as possible. Woodcote was a similar puzzle, in the end I was missing the first apex entirely pretty much braking in a straight line until parallel with the apex and heading off the track on the outside, then tryng to trail brake and make an arc of it to clip the second apex and get on the power down to the chicane.

 

[Locoblade]

Did anyone record the event on that live timing website?

 

[HF2000]

Glad the brake bias tip helped, does tend to lock up the fronts a bit with that much dialled in but massively helps confidence and stability going into the corners.

Madgwick seems to be one of those corners you can take a few lines and be reasonably quick but it's hard to get it consistently really quick. Not sure it was the best line but I found staying a bit wider to start with helped, I was turning in a bit at the 100m(?) board but only to about mid track whilst rolling off the throttle and changing down a gear trying to get gradually towards the inside for the second apex so I could carry speed and get on the throttle as early as possible. Woodcote was a similar puzzle, in the end I was missing the first apex entirely pretty much braking in a straight line until parallel with the apex and heading off the track on the outside, then tryng to trail brake and make an arc of it to clip the second apex and get on the power down to the chicane.

Well thanks for the tip Chris . In race one I used 74 without blocking, in race 2 with 75 I had some blocking. Not sure which was eventually faster.

 

[Bertje]

I ran a bias of 65 on both races, as I had to get the car sideways by braking for it to turn... Everything above a bias of 70 is for the weak, who want to make it too easy for themselves! hahaha

 

[Medilloni]

I don’t know what happened to @Medilloni never saw him at all, I would have enjoyed another battle with John.

1st race, had a punt up the bum going into St Mary's - must take some blame, I was too cautious on cold tyres, start of the race and all that, and whoever it was kindly waited so all's good. Only problem with going off on the first lap is the field is so bunched together it's hard to rejoin safely, think I was next to last. Struggled with setup, understeer and poor top speed in particular, so had to chuck it at every corner, not quick but gives me the schoolboy grin Then I ran out of fuel with a lap to go

2nd Race, another nudge off, into the chicane which put me back, by then my body and mind were elsewhere Take away for me; I had some terrific battles trying to get back into it, all super-fair, managed a pass I was really proud of - round the outside of Woodcote... I think we both had to breath in

Anyway, I didn't miss you Ernie, you were quicker

The track is nice too but I still haven't got a clue which line to take in Madgewick Corner. Is that a double apex or something like that? And I really loved the Fordwater/St.Mary's part of the circuit!

It is a double apex Han - when people look at the track map it looks easy (only imo!), though it's a very technical track, did some track days here 30-odd yrs ago and I'm still crap It was really special watching the instructors - turning into Madgewick and hit both apexes without moving the wheel once after initial turn in, impressive to watch!

Agree about the Fordwater - St Mary's part - I find it hard to have the patience (and skill!) to exit leaving half the track width spare, so you've got the ideal entry line for St Mary's... which has a late apex and the track drops away on exit. Highlight of the night for me was seeing how hard you could throw it sideways into the last right hander of Fordwater, boy that was fun

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Now the race is done, hope you don't mind the OT Denis.... any suggestions from you good guys appreciated:

Starting to get a bit paranoid about lack of top speed & acceleration, have had this for a few weeks now where I could have a much faster exit and the car in front still seems to hit a warp-speed button.

Couple of weeks ago I found the clutch was was flickering very slightly, cleaned it all up and no sign of it since, but still losing out to most cars in every race. My setups are naff, but haven't had this problem in the last two years (apart from a similar problem with my old G29 pedals) - not using any more suspension alterations that cause drag or bottoming out, and even using less wing with the 650S I'm still losing speed.

...to add to my confusion, I've checked all settings (so often I'm sick of it!), and even in hotlap/practice I can watch my speed delta (from personal best) on straights dropping away.

My flabbers are ghasted

 

[Locoblade]

Your load cell on the brake isn't dragging slightly is it? I had to trim out the first 5% or so of my load cell converted G25 pedal travel to ensure it wasn't dragging and flickering the brake lights at everyone following.

 

[Mike Murphy]

Quick clip of the impossible task of trying to pass @Sheashant L in race 1!

 

[Locoblade]

I ran a bias of 65 on both races, as I had to get the car sideways by braking for it to turn... Everything above a bias of 70 is for the weak, who want to make it too easy for themselves! hahaha

Could still get it sideways but it was a little more likely to happen when you wanted it to rather than when you didn't want it to

 

[HF2000]

Quick clip of the impossible task of trying to pass @Sheashant L in race 1!

Man, you've got balls going in the chicane together!!!

 

[Medilloni]

Your load cell on the brake isn't dragging slightly is it? I had to trim out the first 5% or so of my load cell converted G25 pedal travel to ensure it wasn't dragging and flickering the brake lights at everyone following.

Thanks Chris - have tried giving a shed load of free play to both brake and clutch, and leaving 'spare' room at the end of the accelerator too.

Should have mentioned, my pedals are Thrustmaster tr3 pro.

 

[HF2000]

It was really special watching the instructors - turning into Madgewick and hit both apexes without moving the wheel once after initial turn in, impressive to watch!

I would like to see an onboard on that.
I accidentely did that once in the race and it was so fast!!! The rest of the race I kept trying to repeat that but if you don't succeed it's so much slower.

 

[Kek700]

Sorry about a desire to fix every problem John. @Medilloni
Have you tried the drag strip at 2000m, the Ai is usually very competitive
on the drag strip. Don’t try the Alfa gtam ???
I will pick a car for you, then all you need to do is try your rig against mine. I used the McLaren 650S, I never touched any setup, as standard. did not anticipate the lights, use first run before it rubbers in.
Ai 53.94
me 54.03
the Ai should take about 3 car lengths, then you should almost catch up at 2000m.
I noticed Chris’s McLaren was chopping into my back straight lead on Okayama, I was in a McLaren too, unfortunately I could not remove corner speed and sooner application of throttle, setup, from it all.

 

[HF2000]

Sorry about a desire to fix every problem John. @Medilloni
Have you tried the drag strip at 2000m, the Ai is usually very competitive
on the drag strip. Don’t try the Alfa gtam ???
I will pick a car for you, then all you need to do is try your rig against mine. I used the McLaren 650S, I never touched any setup, as standard. did not anticipate the lights, use first run before it rubbers in.
Ai 53.94
me 54.03
the Ai should take about 3 car lengths, then you should almost catch up at 2000m.
I noticed Chris’s McLaren was chopping into my back straight lead on Okayama, I was in a McLaren too, unfortunately I could not remove corner speed and sooner application of throttle, setup, from it all.

I'd like to try that. Is the drag strip in stock or else where can I get it? And the AI at 100%? No setup changes. Not even tyre pressure. And you did it on softs?

 

[Kek700]

If you do not think your sim rig is working properly, it gives you when compared to someone else’s rig a good standard to compare with.

no Han, exactly as is, did not touch anything at all in the setup.

 

[Kek700]

Ps, thought it would be good for John, testing the clutch, the brakes and accelerator for defects. You can do it many times, the track will rubber in but the difference between Ai and you should remain the same. Probably highly flawed, so if anyone wants to put me right happy to listen. Quite often use this to set cars up.