Yes, rain makes it more exciting most of the time, but it was not raining on the Red Bull Ring and Silverstone, which were great races to watch as well.Nico Rosberg said the same, but you're both wrong. It was simply raining
Yes, rain makes it more exciting most of the time, but it was not raining on the Red Bull Ring and Silverstone, which were great races to watch as well.Nico Rosberg said the same, but you're both wrong. It was simply raining
Guys what do you think about all this whining of some victims of turn 16?
They're complaining about the slippery run-off on the dragstrip in wet
conditions but i mean that's a bit ridiculous. Meanwhile they seem to be so
used to modern "high grip" tarmac run-offs that they appear surprised that
a mistake CAN actually cause a DNF. If it had been wet grass it wouldn't
have been any different i'm sure and a gravel trap like in Sachs Kurve
would've been even worse. You just get stuck and that's it.
And if they make such mistakes in Monaco or Singapore a wall would
end their race anyway. So i can't really understand their criticism tbh.
I respectfully disagree. Contemporary F1 cars have no ABS, no traction control and no stability control. These cars are not easy to drive one bit.Completely agree. It's why it's hard for people like me who can remember pre-computer tech F1 to fully respect modern drivers. It is so much easier to drive today with all the aids, the data, the parts reliability, the forgiving run off areas, etc. You even saw Hamilton make a comment on the pre-race piece with the old Mercedes about how you don't understand how much more difficult it was to drive older cars until you get in one. Modern drivers are spoiled b/c of current tech & track layouts, plain & simple.
I respectfully disagree. Contemporary F1 cars have no ABS, no traction control and no stability control. These cars are not easy to drive one bit.
Completely agree. It's why it's hard for people like me who can remember pre-computer tech F1 to fully respect modern drivers. It is so much easier to drive today with all the aids, the data, the parts reliability, the forgiving run off areas, etc. You even saw Hamilton make a comment on the pre-race piece with the old Mercedes about how you don't understand how much more difficult it was to drive older cars until you get in one. Modern drivers are spoiled b/c of current tech & track layouts, plain & simple.
I didn't say they were easy. I said they were easier.
OK. Easier not easy, still I don't understand why you cannot have respect for modern drivers. I do have respect for them. I am not nearly as fast them even in a sim racing context. I cannot match their lap times. I think that all of them are fantastic athletes in their own rights.I didn't say they were easy. I said they were easier.
i may be wrong but I think Mercedes lost on porpusly , they know that the circus is loosing money bcs been so boring . .
Computers were also being used in F1 since the early 80's, maybe even earlier...are we saying the likes of Senna, Prost, Piquet, Mansell, Hakinnen, Schumacher, etc are also not deserving of respect because they were privy to telemetry data?
As to it being "easier": it's a bit like saying a kidney transplant is easier than a triple bypass heart surgery...it's all intense, crazy difficult stuff in their own ways; no sense in direct comparisons. Yeah, the new cars might be "easier" to drive in terms of basic operation (semi-auto trans, more aero grip and power steering), but with that extra downforce they're going through corners faster, thus pulling way more G's way more often than past drivers too. To put it in perspective, the average fighter pilot isn't pulling those kind of G's (after doing it for 4 previous sessions over the past 2 days) for the majority of over 90+ mins straight unless they're in a dogfight doing ACM's, which isn't a typical mission.
Also, although the cars might not sound it, these current engines are still producing the same level of horsepower as those wailing banshees called the V10 early 2000's F1 machines did (and more HP than a few different eras of F1)...and again, with no TC like the V10's had. The notion people keep putting forward that "anyone could do" what modern drivers do is quite insulting to them.
OK. Easier not easy, still I don't understand why you cannot have respect for modern drivers. I do have respect for them. I am not nearly as fast them even in a sim racing context. I cannot match their lap times. I think that all of them are fantastic athletes in their own rights.
Completely agree. It's why it's hard for people like me who can remember pre-computer tech F1 to fully respect modern drivers. It is so much easier to drive today with all the aids, the data, the parts reliability, the forgiving run off areas, etc. You even saw Hamilton make a comment on the pre-race piece with the old Mercedes about how you don't understand how much more difficult it was to drive older cars until you get in one. Modern drivers are spoiled b/c of current tech & track layouts, plain & simple.
I think their issue may be thatGuys what do you think about all this whining of some victims of turn 16?
They're complaining about the slippery run-off on the dragstrip in wet
conditions but i mean that's a bit ridiculous. Meanwhile they seem to be so
used to modern "high grip" tarmac run-offs that they appear surprised that
a mistake CAN actually cause a DNF. If it had been wet grass it wouldn't
have been any different i'm sure and a gravel trap like in Sachs Kurve
would've been even worse. You just get stuck and that's it.
And if they make such mistakes in Monaco or Singapore a wall would
end their race anyway. So i can't really understand their criticism tbh.
Err late 80s early 90s F1 cars did have driver aids...Completely agree. It's why it's hard for people like me who can remember pre-computer tech F1 to fully respect modern drivers. It is so much easier to drive today with all the aids, the data, the parts reliability, the forgiving run off areas, etc. You even saw Hamilton make a comment on the pre-race piece with the old Mercedes about how you don't understand how much more difficult it was to drive older cars until you get in one. Modern drivers are spoiled b/c of current tech & track layouts, plain & simple.
I think their issue may be that
Err late 80s early 90s F1 cars did have driver aids...
Your statement was a bit blanketErr I didn't post about 80s & 90s cars.
Agreed, it would also make it easier to reach the Jim Clark memorial and pay respect to arguably one of the true greatsWhy not bring the forest section back at least as a test track for manufacturers and one that the public can use after paying an appropriate toll?
Your statement was a bit blanket
So you're referring to early 80s yes? Because if your profile is correct you aren't old enough to remember much earlierIf you go back & re-read the post more carefully this time I bet you can find a clue that will help you figure out what eras I am actually referring to. Hint: it's in the second sentence. Godspeed.