2018 Formula One Italian Grand Prix

muzikant · Sep 2, 2018

Ole Marius Myrvold said:
I'll chip in.

I like racing within the rules. Räikkönen v Hamilton was awesome (and don't forget Round 1 between them earlier in the race. Passing and re-passing with zero contact, both on track).

Contact it was from Bottas just how you see it

keto95 · Sep 2, 2018

muzikant said:
https://www.ad.nl/video/kanalen/f1~...-voor-verstappen-na-botsing-met-bottas~p48699

Verstappen: "He touched me on the left wheel". Well, Olav Mol (Dutch commentator) doesn't agree with Verstappen. So do I, sorry.

muzikant · Sep 2, 2018

keto95 said:
Verstappen: "He touched my me on the left wheel". Well, Olav Mol (Dutch commentator) doesn't agree with Verstappen. So do I, sorry.

Haha because there was not enough gap that is racing

motoliser · Sep 2, 2018

muzikant said:
Where crashed Max today? He deffend his line there was no crash

Yet another optritian request

Ole Marius Myrvold · Sep 2, 2018

muzikant said:
Contact it was from Bottas just how you see it

This is the moment of contact. There is no room for Bottas.

motoliser · Sep 2, 2018

Max, just go back to School will ya.

muzikant · Sep 2, 2018

Ole Marius Myrvold said:
This is the moment of contact. There is no room for Bottas.

No room?? Realy? He is not on the grass

keto95 · Sep 2, 2018

muzikant said:
Haha because there was not enough gap that is racing

Well, how much room does he need? So pushing an opponent offtrack is racing?

Ole Marius Myrvold said:
There is no room for Bottas.

It's exactly a 'car width', but not enough to avoid contact.That's Verstappen's problem; avoiding contact.

muzikant · Sep 2, 2018

keto95 said:
Well, how much room does he need?

It's exactly a 'car width', but not enough to avoid contact.

Not smart from Bottas go out side because there is not to much space

muzikant · Sep 2, 2018

muzikant said:
Not smart from Bottas go out side because there is not to much space

And that is racing

keto95 · Sep 2, 2018

muzikant said:
Not smart from Bottas go out side because there is not to much space

He has the right to be there without being hit.

muzikant said:
And that is racing

Not really.

romanos · Sep 2, 2018

He was on the white line, for god's sake. This is a *non-contact* sport. I feel bad that I have to remind you of this. It's not good racing, good drivers drive precisely.

muzikant · Sep 2, 2018

Both drivers are on the track see no gras

keto95 · Sep 2, 2018

muzikant said:
Both drivers are on the track see no gras

Indeed I see no grass, but I saw contact.

muzikant · Sep 2, 2018

Good day for Max haters

Stupid Bottas think he can pass him on the outside. Not! Max is a racer like all great racers That is the problem with Bottas with a faster Mercedes

keto95 · Sep 2, 2018

muzikant said:
Good day for Max haters

Stupid Bottas think he can pass him on the outside. Not! Max is a racer like all great racers That is the problem with Bottas with a faster Mercedes

Bad day for the realism haters.

Your blinders are still functioning ok.

Koen Verlinde · Sep 2, 2018

muzikant said:
Contact it was from Bottas just how you see it

That's the issue, almost nobody sees it like you do, and that strengthens your belief that you are right while all the others aren't.

A feeling I can actually understand, but let's be honest, being blind about Max his faults makes you blind for his good moves as well, as you now think that any move he makes is some kind of Senna/Schumacher level of awesomeness.

It isn't.

Ole Marius Myrvold · Sep 2, 2018

muzikant said:
No room?? Realy? He is not on the grass

He is on the white line. That is the track limit. If he were to turn more left and thus avoid Verstappen crossing to the left, he would've left the track - and Verstappen would've been the one that forced him there.

keto95 said:
It's exactly a 'car width', but not enough to avoid contact.That's Verstappen's problem; avoiding contact.

Well, as it was contact, I'd argue he got less than a car width. Regardless, it's either avoidable contact or not giving enough room when moving back from defending - both not legal, so that doesn't really matter