Got it, well said.
Well, the "majority" got what they wanted, and that's a hard fact to argue with. I'm not particularly invested in Ferrari and this vote; I'm just trying to rationalize everyone's frustration with mild success. Carry on.
The way this poll had been set up led unfortunately NOT to a majority benefit.
A better way of such a poll would have been doing a series of polls over a time frame of 1-2 weeks.
This way Kunos also could have created more social media attention and even voters and fans building up a discussion while the vote is in process and root for certain cars, even set up bets on winners and losers ;-)
I posted this in the official forums, and I'm going to post it here as well..
Why is there such elitism in this community ? Why is everyone (some more, some less) implying that a F1 car is automatically a dumb choice or that hystoric cars = "I'm a true cars' lover" ? Just because you don't share the same idea of others this doesn't make make you any better than them, especially in a case like this one. …
Very true, yet I do not see the initial point of argument in the majority of posts here rooted in elitism or hatred of a particular racing series but rather in a very logical and respectable choice of vehicle that would have resulted in a much bigger long term benefit for Assetto Corsa.
Any other car than the SF70 would have made a more beneficial choice of "rounding up" the content or benefiting better fields on the racetrack.
The SF70 in AC will be a track toy, surely interesting for the fans of F1 and for people who like a challenge to set lap records with a single technically advanced car.
At least in my case it's not elitism, it's practicality. The AI doesn't use the hybrid controls and this car has no competitors in the game so there's not much point in racing it offline. If the SF15 is anything to go by, almost nobody will race the SF70 in multiplayer and even if they did the hybrid controls will likely create a big gap in talent/skill, so there's not much point in racing online. So, it's basically only going to be good for hot-lapping, and we already have the SF15 for that.
In my opinion the SF70 just doesn't really fit into this sim and has no practical purpose for being included, and that's the only reason I'm disappointed in the outcome. If any of the other cars would have won I would have been satisfied and enjoyed the car, the modern F1 is the only one I would have been disappointed in and I highly doubt I'll drive it more than once or twice.
Just my opinion of course, but this is why I'm disappointed with the outcome (not because the car I voted for didn't win).
I couldn't have written it any better.
Hey. I will quote myself in here...
They should open the poll again, but this time only the SF-70H and the 512. (the two most-voted)
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Exactly my thought - reopen a vote. Set it up as a death match of the 4 most voted cars.
Some people really should get a life and stop complaining about the winner or because of the fact that their choice did not win.
Did you look at the list of cars released here? These are great cars. It does also not mean that the other cars won't be in a future DLC.
Kunos is a company first of all. Companies need money. F1 = Lots of money involved. F1 in Assetto Corsa = Money they want for their licences and future content.
I am satisfied with the RSS Mod but i will take an official F1 car gladly. Especially the newest Ferrari F1 car and the F2004 which are unbelievable fast and hopefully nice to drive in this game.
Also loads of other great cars in this DLC. Really looking forward to it. (i did not vote by the way)
So in the age of short attention span and instant gratification the argument or open discussion is out of fashion as well?
I remember the time when a good discussion was very beneficial for everyone involved if not only for receiving some insight of other peoples horizons and personal opinions, learning about arguments and thought trains one could not come up with as of ones own limitations or unwillingness.
This thread is a good one if not only to show people of diverse background that there is reason behind certain preferences.
Stopping arguments might as well mean stopping us being humans.
I fully agree with your opinion of the current list being a very, very strong one.
No i do not imply anything. What are you talking about?
Kunos surely knows that F1 cars will gain lots of attention in a modern Sim. People might just buy the game/DLC SOLELY for that.
Thats why they thought it might be a good idea to get the SF70-H in the poll and see if people really want it. Turns out it won the poll.
This is highly doubtful.
Clientele of F1 content in the past has always proven to want the very latest COMPLETE F1 experience there is.
F1 games have been bought and discarded of on a year to year basis, major buying factor ALWAYS having been the latest, most complete content.
A technically highly advanced simulator, having only a SINGLE car of the 2017 season and far from a complete track rooster of the 2017 F1 season and NONE of the other cars or ANY extended F1 experience (in form of videos, media, background info, championships, accomplishments, …) will not have any discernible effect on additional attention or even translation into sales.
Assetto Corsa is a niche product. F1 fans and Ferrari fans among the Assetto Corsa user base are the once who will benefit from the SF70.
Kunos intentions on this poll were good but in the end they have 15% of their clients happy and 85% unhappy.
And on top of that, acording to how people choose their cars on public servers, these 15% happy people are most likely casual users that don't care how a car drives. The core suporters are probably among 85% of disapointed people. Everybody knows that for people that aren't sports car entusiasts, formula 1 are the only sports car that exist while for real entusiasts (assetto corsa suporters) there are a lot more than F1, and probably much more interesting than modern F1s.
And this 2017 F1 will not add a new car but it will kill SF15 so is just swaping models.
It's a shame that cars like 512 and 575 GT1 aren't on assetto corsa. Porsche 917 and Maseratti MC12, two of the most amazing cars in Assetto, both real and simulated, are relegated to forgoten parts of harddrives.
Very true unfortunately :-(
Best post here.
With discussions like this on this forum and AC official forum we see what is the sim community. A bunch of people that only wants to fastly adapt to one car and go crash on online races.
Training is something that too many people today dont want to do.
This couldn't be further from the experience I have had since joining Racedepartment.
In every single club race I entered I EXCLUSIVELY had the fortune to meet people, very serious about their racing, most motivated to learn how to become quicker and train very hard to increase their skill level to perform better next race.
I have so far not encountered a single user in the RD races who took their racing in any way nonchalantly.
I had the impression (and continue to do so with every race or discourse I have with others here) that people do work hard to learn and understand about cars, setups, race craft and interaction on the track to better themselves and as a result enjoy racing.
Wow, that was the longest read that equaled to absolutely nothing. A lot of long winded posts that basically said the same thing over and over again. But thanks once again to Paul for the original post. Keep up the good work.
Personally I think Kunos needs to focus more on the basic sim before bringing out new DLC. Some things haven't changed since the early access.
It definitely needs more tracks before it needs more cars. Let's face it, without the modding community, this title would be pretty empty.
I have the impression that among all current latest generation racing sims Assetto Corsa is the most polished and most complete experience.
Yes it continues to have several flaws and shortcomings that existed from the beginning.
I see content, be it cars or tracks to be the most important addition to further Assetto Corsa (cars to complete certain classes of cars to be able to race in a diverse field and official tracks to expand the already very nice selection of tracks).
Also unlike some other simulators Assetto Corsa has been designed from the very outset to make mods part of it's package - the selection of truly excellent mod tracks is very good for a sim that is not THAT long available and the selection continues to grow weekly. I can only encourage everyone to look through the download section on RD and try those highest rated tracks right away and be amazed.
