David Garcia
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If it is possible I would go for it.
2012 Formula One United States Grand Prix
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Seems like they've really done it:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/11/18/alonso-moves-clean-side-massa-takes-gearbox-penalty/
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/11/18/alonso-moves-clean-side-massa-takes-gearbox-penalty/
The race is already getting quite boring.... 
ESPN F1 also Confirmed that Ferrari Broke seal on Massa's Gear Box
After a long time Ferrari thinking like old Ferrari or the Present Red bull
After a long time Ferrari thinking like old Ferrari or the Present Red bull
Well, what can they do. I also don't like the idea, but it's really everything or nothing for them now.
Bruno Sousa Ferreira
Strategy Mister!
Really Disapointed in what Ferrari done, I was supporting Alonso/Ferrari for the title but after this I won't mind Vettel winning.
Don't like this because this can open a pandoras' box, hopefully a rule can stop this from next season on.
Don't like this because this can open a pandoras' box, hopefully a rule can stop this from next season on.
David Garcia
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LOL Giorgios... what a drama star have you becomed?The race is already getting quite boring....
Exactly, and I would have done the same. And everybody in their place would have done the same. I bet you all guys against Ferrari doing this have been a cloistered nun in a previous life, or a buddhist monk.
Stop this farce, it is emetic.
Ferrari all-in baby! Great strategy move, let's see if they can take the fight to Brazil.
Well mate it might work or might not work at all. I wonder if they have the "slippery" track concept ditch or they think that enough rubber is on track for htem to make such a move.
Unlike the "omg cheat wahh" accusations on Ferrari over @ Facebook and other places, this IS teamwork, Massa is taking 1 for the team, even tho he earned his place. PLus he is nowhere near the points with Vettel.
This kinds of orders have always existed between teams in and off track, so I don't see the bad thing about this, EXCEPT, if the logical thing to do is to start off from the dirty side, less grip, but that means less wheel spin since the track is an ice skate ring.
Ferrari is playing a big gamble, like betting a Million pounds buy in 1 time play of Blackjack. the chances of actually making it work, slim to none.
I say yes it will be a boring race, mostly because of the length of the track, but also because everyone will do a 1 pit stop. The most we can wish for are Safety Cars, although highly unlikely unless debri on race line, cuz this track has 2 many paved run off areas.
Whatever happened to gravel and grass, thats a real mens track.
Xosé Estrada
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You don't want teams in F1? Send a letter to Bernie
Well, if one team is going to be underhand then they all might as well be.
2 years ago, this would have bothered me, now.......... just par for the course in this sport now.
So, good teamwork I guess, nice one Massa.
Chris Jenkins
Driving til the wheels fall off
I think fair enough. It's legal and helps the championship contender. Why not.
Red Bull would do it if it was the other way round.
Red Bull would do it if it was the other way round.
Honestly this current quite is far more dramatic then my post since I just state my loss of enthusiasm for this upcoming US GP after a team order....
Peter
who cares
But they influence the rest of the grid.
The ones that are happy with the clean side are now on the dirt.
Xosé Estrada
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Because you were excited for Vettel securing the championship easy?
Otherwise I don't know what changed except more chances of having a more exciting race.
Fernando is faster than you... before they even moved
I wonder what drivers, that initially qualified behind Massa but on a clean side, think right now...
But yeah guy's, I agree with all of you. That's a logical all-in and hopefully it will take the championship to Brazil (although I fear that Ferrari will not outpace Red Bull in Brazil). It's still going to take a Vettel retirement for Alonso to stand any chance in the championship my opinion, but with such a first corner you never know. It's only 30 minutes to the start and we'll see. I can't wait...
I wonder what drivers, that initially qualified behind Massa but on a clean side, think right now...
But yeah guy's, I agree with all of you. That's a logical all-in and hopefully it will take the championship to Brazil (although I fear that Ferrari will not outpace Red Bull in Brazil). It's still going to take a Vettel retirement for Alonso to stand any chance in the championship my opinion, but with such a first corner you never know. It's only 30 minutes to the start and we'll see. I can't wait...
Good strategy call from the team. When competing with a team like RedBull that takes every opportunity to violate the "spirit" but not the actual regulations you have to use every bit of strategy possible to not fall behind the curve.
who is Matt Leblanc? he is a star? /sarcasm @ speedtv stream cast.
No, I don't really care if Vettel takes the championship or not. I don't like him more then Alonso, but I hate Ferrari who always have to moderate the race results. (I have never liked team orders, they take away all the fun)
Plus if you want me to correct you, Alonso f***** up his own qualify position so he made it much easier for Vettel to take the championship....
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