It's not a debate over his past performance, it's over his current performance. And right now, he's certainly not performing to the expectations that come from driving for Ferrari. He has a measly 11 points so far while his teammate has 86.
2012 Formula One Canadian Grand Prix
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It's not a debate over his past performance, it's over his current performance. And right now, he's certainly not performing to the expectations that come from driving for Ferrari. He has a measly 11 points so far while his teammate has 86.
Even Senna is in front of Massa... 
Well, answer me this: why is it that Button can't get the setup right and Lewis can? Same team, same data, completely different results. Only thing that changes between the two McLarens is the driver.
First of all Congratulations to Lewis Hamilton for Getting his 1st win
Sebastian, Alonso and Lewis these are going to give everything now and i guess we will see these 3 for Most times in Press conferences of Saturday and Sunday.
Alonso and Sebastian must be feeling hard due to loss of Podiums but they will be in the Hunt but Gambles will paid off at some stages not all the time
It looks like Vettel is back to his form of Qualification like previous years
But What's going on with Jenson he looked like he was the only man can stop Sebastian in the Last year but this time he was Getting lapped by His team mate.
Well is there a Problem with the car or he was got used to the EBD more??
I really want the see these 3 Big Drivers in Gala 2012 holding the Trophies but don't know who will lift which trophy
Sebastian, Alonso and Lewis these are going to give everything now and i guess we will see these 3 for Most times in Press conferences of Saturday and Sunday.
Alonso and Sebastian must be feeling hard due to loss of Podiums but they will be in the Hunt but Gambles will paid off at some stages not all the time
It looks like Vettel is back to his form of Qualification like previous years
But What's going on with Jenson he looked like he was the only man can stop Sebastian in the Last year but this time he was Getting lapped by His team mate.
Well is there a Problem with the car or he was got used to the EBD more??
I really want the see these 3 Big Drivers in Gala 2012 holding the Trophies but don't know who will lift which trophy
Did both Red Bulls carry the same update's, an i saw Mr Alien or as some would call him Dr. Newey having himself an eye full of the MP27 on Grid Walk, copy cat are we Newey
May be or may not be it was up to Adrian Newey and Redbull is going to get update in Valencia and Silverstone so we can see there in June 22nd
Chris Jenkins
Driving til the wheels fall off
What a race!
Probably the most entertaining gP I've watching in a while. Something happening on every lap!
Great result for Hamilton too. Not so much for Button
Probably the most entertaining gP I've watching in a while. Something happening on every lap!
Great result for Hamilton too. Not so much for Button
Brilliant race! Ferrari got it wrong....
Hamilton drove a great race!
Hamilton drove a great race!
I agree with this, but I do think driving is still playing a significant role for those that do not get the set up right.
Some drivers seem to be able to drive a car despite not having the perfect setup (Alonso and Hamilton). It seems Alonso is where he is in the standings becasue of this (and other factors of course).
Give most f1 drivers a "good car, well set up", they will invariably drive well (apart from karthikeyen -only joking).
Give them a not so good car and that's where the boys get separated from the men (in f1 terms).
Well, different engineer? It's the engineer that's setuping the car, not the driver. If you remember, last year, Melbourne? Button struggled like hell. He was like this till the Canadian GP. When the car feels different - his engineer always takes a lot of time till he finds the key. That's why I wanted even last year Button to hire a new engineer. Altho at the end of the season Button improved a lot. I think Button is definitely in form this year. He showed it at Melbourne, he showed it at Malaysia, China. If you look through the races, his struggling begins with the new nose of the car. New nose - new way to setup the car - years for his engineer to find out what to do. That's why I'm sad for Button. He's a really good driver, he has potential, he's been in bad teams all his career and now when he's in a good one - he has again bad luck.
Anyways, he'll improve sooner or later.
Too bad he'll be even more points off the leaders. Now he's with half of their points.. But... Nothing to do.. 
Fantastic race!
Very strong performance of Hamilton.
As soon as the temp came down the Mclaren "clicked" sort of.
Very strong performance of Hamilton.
As soon as the temp came down the Mclaren "clicked" sort of.
Great race, actually one of the better races I've seen. Love that track, both to watch and drive
Seven winners out of seven races is absolutely fantastic. It can get even be better when Massa, Schumi, Kimmi and Grosjean will take their first victory of the year.
Ross Balfour
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Great race, such a shame I was playing football, recorded the full programme and little brother deleted it on me -_- but the highlights were still great. Ferrari made a huge error, Webber too screwed up his strategy big time.
Great podiums for Perez and Grosjean, the future of F1 right there.
Great podiums for Perez and Grosjean, the future of F1 right there.
Luca Di Montezemolo eating his words no doubt.
Mercedes should just let Schumi drive Rosberg's car; that thing is practically indestructible.
Mercedes should just let Schumi drive Rosberg's car; that thing is practically indestructible.
Xosé Estrada
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What is happening to Felipe... He spun alone on a dry track
Has to be something psychological, he's a talented driver, since the Sauber time, can't believe what its happening to him.
Has to be something psychological, he's a talented driver, since the Sauber time, can't believe what its happening to him.
What is happening to Felipe... He spun alone on a dry track
Has to be something psychological, he's a talented driver, since the Sauber time, can't believe what its happening to him.
I can't believe someone is on my opinion and doesn't count Massa as a loser!
Bravo!
fair play, but I don't agree. Of course we want competition, and different winners, but it's almost too much of a lottery at the moment. Driver skill almost doesn't come in to it sometimes, it's just if a drivers' tyres happen to be working with that particular car on that particular day/weekend. And also with these new tyres, drivers can only properly push for about 3 laps of each race because it screws tyres when driving flat out. To me, that says the tyres are inadequate for the job. Just putting it out there, as I know it's not the most popular view on it
Don't get me wrong, it's damn entertaining, but a little false to me
the best always keep a close eye on rivals, best way to stay ahead
I agree with you i don't want to get this kind of entertainmentfair play, but I don't agree. Of course we want competition, and different winners, but it's almost too much of a lottery at the moment. Driver skill almost doesn't come in to it sometimes, it's just if a drivers' tyres happen to be working with that particular car on that particular day/weekend. And also with these new tyres, drivers can only properly push for about 3 laps of each race because it screws tyres when driving flat out. To me, that says the tyres are inadequate for the job. Just putting it out there, as I know it's not the most popular view on it
Don't get me wrong, it's damn entertaining, but a little false to me
May be sauber is Quicker but not much as to be in Podium for twice
I'm not saying this due to i don't like sauber but i was saying this cos it was too much of Tire related Both Grosjean and Perez did an excellent job of Saving tires and Pushed very little which made them Enough to be for a 1 stop.
I really love 7 winners in 7 different races but not in this kind of Tire relations
A Win matters most for any driver it must be earned in hard way by Wheel to Wheel racing not by conservation of tires.
If we had the 7 out of 7 with Wheel to Wheel racing i guess i will be the one of those by watching the Driver skills at a Very high level and Hailing the Drivers all the time
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